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California Orders Churches To Fund Abortions—Or Else
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:29 pm
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California’s Department of Managed Health Care has ordered all insurance plans in the state to immediately begin covering elective abortion. Not Plan B. Not contraceptives. Elective surgical dismemberment abortion.
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Churches Can Exclude Chemical Baby Killing, But Not Surgical
Several other California churches have received similar notices from their insurers, and others will follow. While California (like the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, or HHS) exempts churches from its contraceptive mandate, there is no exception to this bureaucratic abortion mandate. This leaves California churches in the illogical and impossible position of being free to exclude contraceptives from their health plan for reasons of religious conscience but required to provide their employees with abortion coverage.
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So this where the narrow ruling in the HL case has led us. Hopefully this case doesn't even reach the federal appeals court level and the HL case gets expanded to cover all religious objections.
Gotta love those freedom loving lefties.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:30 pm to GumboPot
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Gotta love those freedom loving lefties
I think ISWYDT.............if not.......
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:32 pm to GumboPot
The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:34 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
Ditto.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:35 pm to GumboPot
Next thing you'll tell me is that churches will be ordered to perform same sex marriages.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
It should.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:42 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
Especially surgical abortion. Like stabbing a pair of forceps in the base of an unborn baby's brain. Now Californian's are force to pay for that service in their insurance plans. But they cannot be forced to pay for the birth control and abortifacients outlined in the HL case.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
not me. I think its awesome. I wish more people would get abortions.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:46 pm to Hawkeye95
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not me. I think its awesome
Not surprising
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:dismemberment of fetuses=awesome?quote:
The concept of abortion fills me with physical horror.
not me. I think its awesome.
You are one sick frick
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:47 pm to Hawkeye95
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I wish more people would get abortions.
Well. In a sense, yes. But if I said what I REALLY wanted to say, then I'd probably get banned.
Oh frick it. People on welfare having babies is fricked up. I'll just leave it there.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:50 pm to Hawkeye95
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not me. I think its awesome.
That's a really weird thing to say.
I'm not really anti abortion, but I certainly don't like it. Anyone who "Likes" abortion is a pretty sick individual.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:52 pm to GumboPot
Sweet!! My tax dollars at work! 
:bigcasty:
:bigcasty:
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:52 pm to Roaad
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dismemberment of fetuses=awesome?
yep.
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You are one sick frick
I dunno about that. but I definitely have a different set of values than most here.
I see nothing wrong with abortion. Now would I prefer the woman to be on free, gov't provided birth control to getting an abortion? Yes I would, mainly due to cost. its a lot cheaper for birth control.
Its really a simple cost equation. Someone who doesn't want a kid is going to do a shitty job raising it, and likely suck off the gov't teat.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:53 pm to GumboPot
Anyone tells me that someone who supports the murder of innocent life isn't mentally unstable and I will tell them they are FOS. If you are pro abortion, you mighy as well have preformed the abortion yourself.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:53 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:A Modest Proposal was satire.
Its really a simple cost equation.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:55 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:Oh myquote:
dismemberment of fetuses=awesome?
yep.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:55 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:So you're in the Gosnell pro-snipping camp?
I wish more people would get abortions.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:56 pm to GumboPot
If the state can override your religious convictions, why bother with churches at all?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:58 pm to TrueTiger
quote:that's the endgame for Cali.
If the state can override your religious convictions, why bother with churches at all?
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