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re: Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:29 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:29 pm to Pettifogger
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While I certainly appreciate callings and faith, I highly doubt God will call you to stay in an area and rely on the government to get by.
This cannot be stressed enough.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:12 pm to bird35
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You move where the jobs are. Do I like living in Atlanta.......not really Have I lived in Atlanta for the past 16 years......yep
Bingo. I love Louisiana. But there was no work for what I do there. I make $130,000 a year now, but had to leave every extended family member, friend and loved one behind. But you do what you have to do to feed your wife and kids. So I moved to Arizona and then Washington state.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:32 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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They may have children who have special needs who would be disrupted if they move. They may lack the money to move. It can take a few thousands dollars to rent and pack up a U-Haul and take your family and take care of the various expenses to move.
Some people may have obligations to their church and feel a calling from the Lord to stay in their community. Some may be divorced and do not want to move away from their children and not have the frequent visits that are important.
Feel free to start a foundation to support people with these excuses.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:36 pm to Layabout
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We'll be a nation of migrant workers,
We are nation of migrants. 
Posted on 10/22/14 at 3:06 pm to C
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We are nation of migrants.
More precisely IM-migrants.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:06 pm to C
It costs 5000 dollars to move out of state, and 2000 dollars to move intrastate.
Poor folks don't have that cash laying around
Poor folks don't have that cash laying around
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:14 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Poor folks don't have that cash laying around
If they are truly poor, what are they moving around that costs $5k? Get a bus ticket and find a job. $10k sign up bonus. GTFO with these excuses.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:20 pm to stevengtiger
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ETA: My sister lives in a decent house in a nice area of Denver and pays nowhere near that much.
the oil jobs aren't in denver. they are on the western slope where housing is a lot more scarce, and you also have to jockey with seasonal workers for the cheap places.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:26 pm to C
quote:For people who already live there and already have a CDL. You're looking at least three four-figure expenses: trucking school, moving costs, and a deposit and first month's lease/utilities (in an oil boom-town where rents are $2000/month for a shoe closet) to establish residency.
$10k sign up bonus
If I sold every damn thing in my apartment on Craigslist, I could maybe cover one of those things, and my furnishings are middle-class stuff from Rooms to Go and IKEA. A poor person probably already got their shite from Craiglist. I guess arithmetic is liberal excuse-making though.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:33 pm to Iosh
Haha man you have no clue what struggling really is. And driving is but one avenue of work that was highlighted. McDonald's fry cooks starting at $20hr. Think about the skills you likely have above a starting fry cook. Now what do you think you could do in a place starving for semiskilled labor? What do you think your pay would be.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:53 pm to Hawkeye95
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I don't feel particularly sorry for the long term unemployed unless special circumstances exist, but i understand why they may not want to move to the middle of nowhere.
In life, sometimes you have to do a few things you may not want to do in order to take care of yourself and your family. If not, they have no right to cry when they get criticized for taking long term assistance.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:55 pm to C
quote:I don't need to whip out my dick and see which has the bluest collar to know that the poor in America still have furniture, which is why "hurr durr what do they own get a bus pass" is a retarded argument.
Haha man you have no clue what struggling really is. And driving is but one avenue of work that was highlighted. McDonald's fry cooks starting at $20hr. Think about the skills you likely have above a starting fry cook. Now what do you think you could do in a place starving for semiskilled labor? What do you think your pay would be.
As is your pathetic dodge and tumble now changing the subject from trucking to fast food. Where you still couldn't resist doubling the wages. You got a link for that $20/hr starting figure? Smells like meme to me when this story quotes a fast-food restaurant starting at $11/hr. Which, considering the moving costs and the housing costs in Williston, is not the value proposition you are imagining it to be.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:56 pm to Iosh
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For people who already live there and already have a CDL. You're looking at least three four-figure expenses: trucking school, moving costs, and a deposit and first month's lease/utilities (in an oil boom-town where rents are $2000/month for a shoe closet) to establish residency.
The OP point is if you are unemployed and living in a community with a poor rate of employment, you can either "hope", or you can "change".
It is a choice. It is an available choice. To imply otherwise is dishonest.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:57 pm to NC_Tigah
It costs thousands of dollars to hire a moving company or rent a uhaul.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:01 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:I didn't need your help to discern that the OP was making a fact-free argument without regard to specifics and constructed entirely from conservative tropes and ignorance. But thank you for making it more explicit.
The OP point is if you are unemployed and living in a community with a poor rate of employment, you can either "hope", or you can "change".
It is a choice. It is an available choice. To imply otherwise is dishonest.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:12 pm to Iosh
quote:It wasn't so much "help" as it was instruction.
I didn't need your help to discern that the OP
Consider it education for a nitwit know-it-all who couldn't sell "every damn thing in his apartment" for $3500.
Hell. Who knows? You might consider a move to the Dakotas yourself.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:14 pm to Iosh
Why are you hiring a moving company??? Damn. I've moved close to 20 times without a moving company. It's just hard work. And that's for a full household of 4. And your not going there too live. You're going to work. Pack a bag and go if you're truly struggling. Problem is people aren't truly struggling but are just jealous of what others have when they demand govt mandated benefit increases.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:18 pm to C
quote:I am?
Why are you hiring a moving company???
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:23 pm to C
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Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?
quote:There's the answer to the OP, C.
you hiring a moving company??? Damn.
Heck, you have to feel sorry for someone like that, don't you?
I'll bet moving costs alone would eat up that $10K bonus.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:38 pm to WeeWee
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Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?
I don't like to talk in absolutes but usually anybody that is long term unemployed and either doesn't move, change careers or go back to school to increase their education level so that they can get a better shot at a job is a POS.
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