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re: Soooo....our bench looks pretty terrible
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:47 pm to brmark70816
Posted on 10/21/14 at 8:47 pm to brmark70816
1.Were set on guards dude, holiday, Evans, Gordon, jimmer, Russ, and Austin can all play point and can all score. Jrue and Evans are very good passers and so is Russ if you've ever watched him play, he evolved his game.
2All Stephens is is a high vertical, yeah he would be fun to watch but he shoots mid to low 20% from 3 and finishes worst than rivers, and rivers may not finish there but he gets to the rim regularly and creates open shots from the perimeter for those deep threats,
3. ajinca isn't bad in the post, in his team in France he was the main scoring option there. Watch him play next time and you'll see his array of moves, he has a nice fade. And Anderson has a wonderful post fade and some good up and under moves I've seen, and asik is much better on offense from what I've seen than from what was advertised.
Watch the team before you post stupid shite and sound dumb
2All Stephens is is a high vertical, yeah he would be fun to watch but he shoots mid to low 20% from 3 and finishes worst than rivers, and rivers may not finish there but he gets to the rim regularly and creates open shots from the perimeter for those deep threats,
3. ajinca isn't bad in the post, in his team in France he was the main scoring option there. Watch him play next time and you'll see his array of moves, he has a nice fade. And Anderson has a wonderful post fade and some good up and under moves I've seen, and asik is much better on offense from what I've seen than from what was advertised.
Watch the team before you post stupid shite and sound dumb
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 9:04 pm to unibrownation
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Watch the team before you post stupid shite and sound dumb
Wow, made that pretty personal. I won't sink that that level. But let's have some fun with this.
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1.Were set on guards dude, holiday, Evans, Gordon, jimmer, Russ, and Austin can all play point and can all score
No, they can't. Holiday is a PG and a pretty good one. None of the rest you listed can guard/check a good PG at this level. If Gordon or Evans moves to PG, we then have no one to play major minutes at SG or SF respectively and we will also then suck at PG. Evans was a train wreck at PG (good numbers, team got beat a lot) and Gordon has never done it for a long stretch, so he probably can't or would have done it sometime within his 6 year NBA career.
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2All Stephens is is a high vertical
I said I liked the idea of Stephens, meaning I just liked the idea or having someone athletic and that can finish at the rim. I don't want a bench that is totally dependent on 3pt shooting. That is just suicide and that group will get destroyed.
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3. ajinca isn't bad in the post, in his team in France he was the main scoring option there. Watch him play next time and you'll see his array of moves, he has a nice fade. And Anderson has a wonderful post fade and some good up and under moves I've seen, and asik is much better on offense from what I've seen than from what was advertised.
So they all have good fade aways in the post. Can they finish there and take it to the rim? If you want to argue they have more potential than they have showed, then cool. But that hasn't been exploited yet.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:20 pm to brmark70816
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So they all have good fade aways in the post. Can they finish there and take it to the rim? If you want to argue they have more potential than they have showed, then cool. But that hasn't been exploited yet.
Ajinca has more than a fade away. I don't claim to be the grown up basketball expert who's putting the kids in their place as you seem to be, but I'm pretty sure Ajinca showed some strength around the rim in the few games I saw him play.
ETA: That was a bit much. I was in a pissy mood last night.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 7:11 am
Posted on 10/22/14 at 7:57 am to corndeaux
I don't recall how his rotation predictions were last year, probably not good considering the injuries and mid season pickups, but MM is predicting a 9 man rotation.
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Michael McNamara @McNamara247 · 22 hours ago
My prediction for minutes distribution:
AD- 37
Tyreke- 36
Jrue - 35
Gordon - 33
Ryno- 31
Asik - 30
Rivers - 17
Ajinca - 11
Babbitt- 10
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:47 am to TigerinATL
So that works out to:
C/PF:
AD-37
Asik-30
Ryno-18
Ajinca-11
SF:
Tyreke-25
Ryno-13
Babbitt-10
PG/SG:
Holiday-35
Gordon-33
Rivers-17
Tyreke-11
I'd rather Ryno get more minutes at C/PF, then give Ajinca 11 minutes
C/PF:
AD-37
Asik-30
Ryno-18
Ajinca-11
SF:
Tyreke-25
Ryno-13
Babbitt-10
PG/SG:
Holiday-35
Gordon-33
Rivers-17
Tyreke-11
I'd rather Ryno get more minutes at C/PF, then give Ajinca 11 minutes
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:26 am to TigerinATL
Jimmer will get in at least 5-7 mpg, IMO.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:30 am to quail man
Yeah, I think Jimmer will take a lot of Rivers minutes away.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:39 am to Fun Bunch
Jimmer got 10mpg in Chicago. I expect him to see 6-8 this year with a healthy flock.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:40 am to TigerinATL
I just fear a group w/o 3 of our core 6 on the floor. Monty seems to love to play 10/11 guys. We should never see a lineup consisting of Rivers, Fredette, Babbit/Salmons, Ajincia all on the floor at the same time unless we have multiple injuries to our core 6.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:34 am to brmark70816
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Watch the team before you post stupid shite and sound dumb
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Wow, made that pretty personal. I won't sink that that level. But let's have some fun with this.
Not sure that was personal. Outside of disagreeing with your post, he didnt attack you outside of what you said.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:41 pm to TigerinATL
I pretty clearly am not enamored with the bench and even I think 9 man rotation is too little. It's much more about how the rotations shake out.
For instance, I'm curious about Jimmer, Rivers, Evans, Anderson, Asik. Really any Anderson/Asik lineup and any Anderson/Evans lineup fascinates me. I really have little desire to see much of Ajinca at all. As a 4th big that shouldn't be a problem
For instance, I'm curious about Jimmer, Rivers, Evans, Anderson, Asik. Really any Anderson/Asik lineup and any Anderson/Evans lineup fascinates me. I really have little desire to see much of Ajinca at all. As a 4th big that shouldn't be a problem
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:20 pm to corndeaux
Agree re Ajinca. If we see more than 5 minutes a night of Ajinca Monty is foolish. Just cut those 96 minutes a night between AD/Asik/Ryno.
AD 18/PF 18/C
Asik 30/C
Ryno 30/PF
AD 18/PF 18/C
Asik 30/C
Ryno 30/PF
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:08 pm to Solo
Foul trouble and injury is the only reason we should see much from Ajinca.
Does anyone think they could try Babbitt/Anderson frontcourt in select spots v 2nd units? Obviously very small, very weak on the glass, and very white, but v the right opponent, it could be a fun change of pace unit
Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Babbitt, Anderson? Swap Gordon for Jimmer for extra vanilla swirl?
ETA: Even just Babbitt at the 4 at times. He could be a very poor man's version of Anderson next to Asik or Davis
Does anyone think they could try Babbitt/Anderson frontcourt in select spots v 2nd units? Obviously very small, very weak on the glass, and very white, but v the right opponent, it could be a fun change of pace unit
Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Babbitt, Anderson? Swap Gordon for Jimmer for extra vanilla swirl?
ETA: Even just Babbitt at the 4 at times. He could be a very poor man's version of Anderson next to Asik or Davis
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 10/22/14 at 5:51 pm to corndeaux
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Does anyone think they could try Babbitt/Anderson frontcourt in select spots v 2nd units? Obviously very small, very weak on the glass, and very white, but v the right opponent, it could be a fun change of pace unit
I think we would have to be way behind or way ahead before they try anything like that (like pulling the goalie in hockey). They would be way undersized and still very slow. Plus teams would destroy them on the other end..
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:11 pm to brmark70816
Quincy Miller about to get cut by the Nuggets...maybe we pick him up to play the 3?
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:20 pm to Rev1897
quote:Don't know much about him, better than Babbit or our Miller?
Quincy Miller about to get cut by the Nuggets...maybe we pick him up to play the 3?
This team needs a guard badly. SF is going to suck this year and theres nothing outside of a big trade that is going to change that.
We need to focus on finding a solid back up PG.
Moving Rivers and pieces/picks for a Jarrett Jack-level player would be amazing.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:39 pm to danman6336
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Don't know much about him, better than Babbit or our Miller?
Not so much better as different. From what I saw in the stats and highlights, think Aminu with a better handle but a worse defender/rebounder.
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:28 pm to danman6336
quote:They stay healthy and that'll be sufficient.
The top 7-8 guys are going to have to play a serious amount of minutes this year for us to be successful
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:44 pm to TigerinATL
Quincy Miller would be a great upgrade at the backup 3
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:17 am to Rev1897
Perhaps. But they had the chance to get a young guy like that this summer and passed to sign Salmons for more $$. Unless injury or they are ready to cut bait with their own younger guys in Miller and Babbitt, I doubt it happens.
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