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re: Reveille Article Regarding Voter ID
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:13 pm to saint amant steve
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:13 pm to saint amant steve
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How in the actual frick can the NAACP produce that sort of number? Are they only counting the 18+ black population?
If they are able to calculate this number and stand by it's accuracy, then they know where the general locations of these people. If they consider this issue to be the biggest threat to their constitutional freedoms, why wouldn't they use their own money to at least pay for these people to get to a location to get an ID? There's too much money and publicity involved in being a victim for them to give that up. It's the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. If advancing colored people is really the goal, they should be getting their constituents ID's so they can control their own destiny.
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:15 pm to jimbeam
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From women to people of color, group after group have rallied together to fight to join the exclusive, white, property owning male voting group
Are these people prevented from getting an ID?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:15 pm to jimbeam
this article was riddled with falsities and is laughable at best. Might be writing a rebuttal at some point this week if i find time
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:16 pm to Antonio Moss
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Are these people prevented from getting an ID?
To be fair, the OP left off the last sentence of the paragraph.
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And every group succeeded.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:19 pm to saint amant steve
quote:Paul Trotsky >>> Vladimir Lennon
The majority of the print journalism students seem like they have a Karl Marx or Vladimir Lennon poster hanging up in their bedrooms
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:46 pm to jimbeam
When this came up a few years back I remember like 70% of democrats being in favor of showing I'd to vote.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:50 pm to LT
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When this came up a few years back I remember like 70% of democrats being in favor of showing I'd to vote.
During the 2004 election, there were a lot of calls from the left to get rid of electronic voting because they believed the system could be easily corrupted.
Yet, many seem to have no problem with allowing people to vote despite not knowing who they are.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:10 pm to LSUBoo
Man, y'all are trying to get me banned like a motherfricker. Screw y'all. I hope all women and folks of color a GREAT DAY! EAT IT OT
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:13 pm to jimbeam
Racist as hell to think blacks and women aren't on the same level as "white property owners".
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:16 pm to saint amant steve
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How in the actual frick can the NAACP produce that sort of number?
Who the hell doesn't have an ID? That just baffles me. DOn't they ID for Newports anymore?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:19 pm to SCUBABlake
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This is a part of Texas' law. They can get free photo IDs in order to vote.
The price of the ID isn't the real problem in getting the ID. In Texas when you apply for an ID/DL they run your name for warrants, if you have an outstanding warrant you get thrown in jail (there are cells in the Houston DMV's) Most don't get ID's because they don't want to go to jail not because they can't afford it.
I personal think that the names on voting rolls should be compared to outstanding warrants and that name flagged, if someone uses that name to vote they should be allowed vote then thrown in jail. But I'm sure that would be considered a civil rights violation.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:27 pm to jimbeam
Very sophomoric, even for an um ...sophomore.
One of the constants of life is witnessing college kids being routed by common sense. Twas always thus and shall ever be....
One of the constants of life is witnessing college kids being routed by common sense. Twas always thus and shall ever be....
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:37 pm to jimbeam
Conservative judge Posner changes his mind on Voter ID laws.
"It is a dissent, released on Friday, written by Judge Richard Posner, the Reagan-appointed 7th Circuit Court of Appeals judge who was the one who approved the first such Photo ID law in the country (Indiana’s) back in 2008, in the landmark Crawford v. Marion County case which went all the way to the Supreme Court, where Posner’s ruling was affirmed."
"This opinion, written on behalf of five judges on the 7th Circuit, thoroughly disabuses such notions such as: these laws are meant to deal with a phantom voter fraud concern (“Out of 146 million registered voters, this is a ratio of one case of voter fraud for every 14.6 million eligible voters”); that evidence shows them to be little more than baldly partisan attempts to keep Democratic voters from voting (“conservative states try to make it difficult for people who are outside the mainstream…to vote”); that rightwing partisan outfits like True the Vote, which support such laws, present “evidence” of impersonation fraud that is “downright goofy, if not paranoid”; and the notion that even though there is virtually zero fraud that could even possibly be deterred by Photo ID restrictions, the fact that the public thinks there is, is a lousy reason to disenfranchise voters since there is no evidence that such laws actually increase public confidence in elections and, as new studies now reveal, such laws have indeed served to suppress turnout in states where they have been enacted."
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Warning: long article and not for the acumen challenged.
"It is a dissent, released on Friday, written by Judge Richard Posner, the Reagan-appointed 7th Circuit Court of Appeals judge who was the one who approved the first such Photo ID law in the country (Indiana’s) back in 2008, in the landmark Crawford v. Marion County case which went all the way to the Supreme Court, where Posner’s ruling was affirmed."
"This opinion, written on behalf of five judges on the 7th Circuit, thoroughly disabuses such notions such as: these laws are meant to deal with a phantom voter fraud concern (“Out of 146 million registered voters, this is a ratio of one case of voter fraud for every 14.6 million eligible voters”); that evidence shows them to be little more than baldly partisan attempts to keep Democratic voters from voting (“conservative states try to make it difficult for people who are outside the mainstream…to vote”); that rightwing partisan outfits like True the Vote, which support such laws, present “evidence” of impersonation fraud that is “downright goofy, if not paranoid”; and the notion that even though there is virtually zero fraud that could even possibly be deterred by Photo ID restrictions, the fact that the public thinks there is, is a lousy reason to disenfranchise voters since there is no evidence that such laws actually increase public confidence in elections and, as new studies now reveal, such laws have indeed served to suppress turnout in states where they have been enacted."
LINK /
Warning: long article and not for the acumen challenged.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:43 pm to Displaced
Jana king is the biggest dumbass working at the reveille, and that's saying a lot.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:11 pm to jimbeam
Voter ID Law = Unconstitutional poll tax. There are many people in this country who cannot spare an extra 10, 15, 20 or 30 dollars; thats a fact. If you force them to have an ID you're charging them to vote. Period. Even the state paying for the ID doesn't work. Maybe some working mom/dad does not have the time to go stand in line for this free ID. Maybe they don't have the type of job that affords them the luxury of leaving early or coming in late to accomplish this. There are many, many people in this country in situations like that. You think those people should be disenfranchised?
Sometimes we have to be prepared to give up certain rights for the greater good. Thats how democracy works. But what greater good do Voter ID laws serve? All I can think of is voter suppression?
Sometimes we have to be prepared to give up certain rights for the greater good. Thats how democracy works. But what greater good do Voter ID laws serve? All I can think of is voter suppression?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:13 pm to DamnStrong1860
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Voter ID Law = Unconstitutional poll tax. There are many people in this country who cannot spare an extra 10, 15, 20 or 30 dollars; thats a fact
It is also a fact that for some people it is free. So that nonsense you just posted goes out the window.
If voting is important and you have time to go do it then you have the time to go get an ID. I have been to the DMV like once in my life. I can renew everything online now.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:14 pm to DamnStrong1860
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You think those people should be disenfranchised?
Yes.
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But what greater good do Voter ID laws serve? All I can think of is voter suppression?
Limiting voter fraud?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:15 pm to tylercsbn9
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It is also a fact that for some people it is free. So that nonsense you just posted goes out the window.
Lawd, did you bother to read like the very next sentence.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:15 pm to DamnStrong1860
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There are many people in this country who cannot spare an extra 10, 15, 20 or 30 dollars
in 4 years you cant save 20 bucks?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:16 pm to DamnStrong1860
quote:If I tell them in January that by November, they need an ID, you're saying they couldn't find a way to save $10 over 10 months?
There are many people in this country who cannot spare an extra 10, 15, 20 or 30 dollars; thats a fact.
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