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Why LSU Needs to Run on First Down Against Ole Miss

Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:48 am
We have a better chance of picking up 4-5 yards on first down if we make our blocks than we have of completing a pass against a 9 man front. If we are passing, we are only throwing in the 5-15 yard range on first down and the whole defense is in that area. Jennings struggles completing short passes. We can't go deep every pass.

We need to get into 2nd and 5 or so and not get into 2nd and 10. There is a higher chance of an incomplete pass on first down than there is of getting no yardage running the ball. So, running on first down is the better play.

A no gain on first is the same as an incompletion, but the chances of a gain are higher than the chances of completing the pass.

We need to run on first and then pass on 2nd or 3rd.

Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:52 am to
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Why LSU Doesn't Need to Run on First Down Against Ole Miss
Running the Same play on Every single First down is Obvious and Easy to Stop.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:52 am to
Throwing incomplete passes or getting sacked is even easier to stop..
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61747 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:52 am to
We've had 3 weeks of bowl preparation, one bowl game, an entire spring practice/game period, summer drills, fall camp, and now 8 weeks of a college football season to develop a serviceable passing game. Shame on the coaches for neglecting it.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
64156 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:53 am to
They will never see that coming.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16712 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:53 am to
I agree but we need to mix it up and run out of 3-4 wide, misdirection with the read option, etc.

then pound them between the tackles. If we try to do that first, we likely get nada - although if you woulad have asked me prior to this season i would have said we should win against loaded boxes. But thats just not the case.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21118 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:54 am to
I don't think that the coaches have neglected the passing game. I think that our QBs can't execute it.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:56 am to
LSU ran the ball extremely well on first down against AU. How'd that work out for "opening up the pass on 2nd and 3rd down"?

I think it's time to accept that there is no "opening up the pass" with this team.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:57 am to
I would really love to see us come out on a 4 wide spread formation to start it with Jennings in the shotgun an run out of that formation. That would have worked against MooU better than what we did. Im sure well come out in a double tight I formation, but i'd like to see us try something different. Hell you're at home against the #3 team in the country with 2 loses, you don't have much to lose.
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:57 am to
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Why LSU Needs to Run on First Down Against Ole Miss 50% of the time and Pass on First down 50% of the time


this is the right answer. if jennings can't execute this strategy, get him outta there.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:58 am to
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if jennings can't execute this strategy, get him outta there.


And do what, put Harris in who cant do it either?
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15042 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:59 am to
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Running the Same play on Every single First down is Obvious and Easy to Stop.

Of course we only have one running play in our playbook, called "run." And it's always blocked the same way, out of the same formation, with the same halfback reads. So obvious! So easy to stop!
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3000 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:00 pm to
In Les' ten years here what has he done to make you think he won't run on EVERY SINGLE FIRST DOWN. I'm not a Les hater at all. I'm just saying I think you're preaching to the choir. For better or worse Les will be Les.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:00 pm to
We aren't going to be facing 9-man fronts.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:01 pm to
SSSSSHHHHHH. OM reads the Rant!!!
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:01 pm to
Bring back the option-veer!

/sarcasm
Posted by Springlake Tiger
Uptown
Member since Aug 2006
15531 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:01 pm to
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And do what, put Harris in who cant do it either?


Jennings is an inferior passer. Harris can hand the ball off too. I wonder if Ole Miss is going to double Dural going deep since that is the only route Jennings is capable of looking at and executing?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202612 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I don't think that the coaches have neglected the passing game. I think that our QBs can't execute it.






:rimshot:
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Harris can hand the ball off too.

fricked it up two possessions in a row against Auburn.v
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15042 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I wonder if Ole Miss is going to double Dural going deep

Let's hope so. Then we can run all over them all night long.
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