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re: St. George organizers submit petition with signatures
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:58 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:58 pm to LSURussian
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And one of those elementary schools, if one is Parkview Elementary, was just named a National Blue Ribbon School two weeks ago. That's the highest academic honor a school can get.
I believe Parkview is in BR, but SG would like it in their proposed district.
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And that's the honor most EBR people perceive only goes to Baton Rouge Magnet High School which wasn't nominated for the honor this year because John White put a policy in place that magnet schools should not be nominated for it. He changed his mind about that policy about 6 days ago when he was flooded by calls and letters from irate BRMHS parents, among others.
And to short change BRHS is really dumb.
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:07 pm to doubleb
quote:Plus 3 others (Parkview Elementary, Wedgewood Elementary and Southeast Middle School) since the SG organizers said they would include a total of 11 existing schools and build 6 more.....without any new taxes.
Woodlawn HS C no change
Woodlawn MS B (up from a C)
Woodlawn Elem B no change
Jefferson Terrace D no change
Shenandoah A no change
Cedarcrest B (up from a C)
Red Oaks C (up from a D)
Westminister D (down from a C)
Others?
LINK
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:07 pm to fightin tigers
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The report shows that the number of schools in EBR receiving an F doubled to 16
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This is embarassing.
EBR has some great magnet schools, but it appears they are coming at the expense of leaving other schools behind.
This is the list of "F" schools in EBRP (not including RSD schools):
Arlington Preparatory Academy
Howell Park Elem.
Melrose Elem.
Merrydale Elem.
Nortdale Superintendent's Academy
Park Forest Elem
EBR Readiness Superintendent Academy
AMIkids Baton Rouge
Children's Charter School
Greenville Superintendent's Academy
Mentorship Academy of Science & Technology
Career Academy
Beechwood Superintendent Academy
Christa McAuliffe Superintendent Academy
Eden Park Superintendent Academy
North Banks Middle School of Excellence
Are Superintendent's Academies alternative schools? I didn't know we had so many. Besides those, there are a handful of failing regular elementary schools and some charter schools.
I was actually surprised that some schools went up as much as they did. Lee High went from C to B, going from 50 points to 91. They are a magnet school, but they don't have the same admissions requirements as most others do.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:13 pm to Dorothy
You seem knowledgeable regarding the terminology of the school system, exactly what is a "superintendent's academy"? That's a new one on me. Thanks.
ETA: Never mind. I just re-read your post and I see you're wondering the same thing. Sorry.
ETA: Never mind. I just re-read your post and I see you're wondering the same thing. Sorry.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:14 pm to Zantrix
Has the revised number of signatures being 16,500 been mentioned yet in this thread?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:15 pm to Dorothy
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Are Superintendent's Academies alternative schools?
I found an overview on superintendent academies.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:16 pm to LSURussian
I'm not sure either, that's why I asked. I thought EBRPSS only had a few alternative schools, where kids who were expelled from regular school were sent, but maybe there's more. 
Didn't Taylor talk about setting up some schools for kids who were more than one grade level behind their peers, so that they wouldn't have 16 y.o. kids in middle school? Not sure if that was approved, but maybe some of those superintendent's academies are those type of schools.
ETA: Thanks conz!
Didn't Taylor talk about setting up some schools for kids who were more than one grade level behind their peers, so that they wouldn't have 16 y.o. kids in middle school? Not sure if that was approved, but maybe some of those superintendent's academies are those type of schools.
ETA: Thanks conz!
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to BeerMoney
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Has the revised number of signatures being 16,500 been mentioned yet in this thread?
SG only needs 16,500. They originally thought they needed 18k. SG has over 18k to turn in
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to c on z
Thank you. That link helped. I'm sure SG would have the resources for such specific instruction....
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:27 pm to LSURussian
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Plus 3 others (Parkview Elementary, Wedgewood Elementary and Southeast Middle School) since the SG organizers said they would include a total of 11 existing schools and build 6 more.....without any new taxes.
Currently the sales tax rate in EBR Parish for areas not in the Zachary, Central or Baker school districts is 2% or 2 of the 9 cents we pay overall.
Included in the 2 cent sales tax the EBR School system collects is a 1 cent portion that goes to the district and a 1 cent portion that goes to the Educational Improvement Fund which includes new schools.
So citizens not inside of BR and not inside of the other EBR cities are already paying taxes for new schools. They helped pay for schools in the unincorporated area like the three new Woodlawn schools and BRHS, LEE High (under construction) Northeast, Capitol, etc.
So if SG was to form a new district there is already a mechanism to provide for new schools. Now is that enough to build six schools all at one time? I seriously doubt it would be, and that is a big question SG would have to answer IMHO.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:01 pm to doubleb
Could they propose a new school district within their boundries, but not including all of their residents. Say one not including Gardere area.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:22 pm to HeadBusta4LSU
Well I know at least two of the signatures they have need to be thrown out. I signed the petition twice, and live in Baton rouge.
I was approached by organizers at a retail center and asked to sign a petition for better schools. I gladly did that. They never mentioned the petition was actually for St. George, nor did they ever ask me where I lived.
I assume they were more thorough with the other 17,998 petition signers, and my two experiences were the exception.
I was approached by organizers at a retail center and asked to sign a petition for better schools. I gladly did that. They never mentioned the petition was actually for St. George, nor did they ever ask me where I lived.
I assume they were more thorough with the other 17,998 petition signers, and my two experiences were the exception.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:34 pm to LSURussian
You have repeatedly expressed your disbelief in the document you linked. Why are you expecting it to be believable with respect to a police force?
I believe that the people who get elected to govern St. George, if St. George becomes a reality, will want more control over law enforcement, and they will establish a local police department. Politicians seeking to increase their power is more the rule than the exception.
I believe that the people who get elected to govern St. George, if St. George becomes a reality, will want more control over law enforcement, and they will establish a local police department. Politicians seeking to increase their power is more the rule than the exception.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:44 pm to Poodlebrain
quote:You don't understand that my reply to you was an affirmation of my disbelief of their phony "plan"?
You have repeatedly expressed your disbelief in the document you linked. Why are you expecting it to be believable with respect to a police force?
Okay, thanks much. .
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:02 pm to Zantrix
I still don't understand why people who don't live within the proposed area care about this. Why are you so dead set against your neighbors deciding if they want to create their own city or not? Its the choice of the people who live in that area, not yours.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:01 pm to fightin tigers
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Could they propose a new school district within their boundries, but not including all of their residents. Say one not including Gardere area.
Sure, why not?
School districts have nothing to do with any of this anymore now that desegregation was overturned.
I 100% guarantee that the school district will not conform with the city's limits.
Hell, they bent Central's school district to include Sharon Watts Browning's home even though she didn't live in Central.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:09 pm to LSURussian
That is definitely one conclusion that can be drawn. But another is to interpret your response as a challenge to my statement regarding who will pay the costs to police St. George if it gets created. And I wanted to address that interpretation.
I think we both agree that both sides of the issue are using unrealistic financial claims. Without going into specifics it is pretty obvious that the elected officials of Baton Rouge expect the annexations to be beneficial to the city's finances. It stands to reason that the benefit will come at the expense of those living outside of Baton Rouge. Or do you have some reason(s) that you feel the annexations are beneficial for all?
I think we both agree that both sides of the issue are using unrealistic financial claims. Without going into specifics it is pretty obvious that the elected officials of Baton Rouge expect the annexations to be beneficial to the city's finances. It stands to reason that the benefit will come at the expense of those living outside of Baton Rouge. Or do you have some reason(s) that you feel the annexations are beneficial for all?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:10 pm to Asgard Device
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100% guarantee that the school district will not conform with the city's limits.
This is what I am thinking. If the whole state has to vote on this I would imagine it passes.
Someone in West Monroe probably won't care and just check yes to any new independent district.
Does anyone know what independent school districts have failed once reaching the statewide ballots? What chances does this have of failing based on past votes?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:16 pm to fightin tigers
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If the whole state has to vote on this I would imagine it passes.
The tricky part is getting it to pass a parish-wide vote. I think most people were sympathetic to the plights of Central and Zachary. They were both already considered to be established communities and more importantly where ruined by desegregation due to all the students that were bussed in from North Baton Rouge.
Neither of those is the case with St. George. Des and bussing is over. Plus, the organizers used scorched earth us vs. them politics which only created a huge divide. That method will work for getting them a new city formed though, which was the whole point.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 5:25 pm to Asgard Device
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The tricky part is getting it to pass a parish-wide vote.
So is it a statewide election or just parish wide?
Even if it is a parishwide I can see Zachary/Central siding with StG making it a little closer.
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