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re: Can LSU beat Ole Miss with current offensive philosophy ?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:33 am to ThreauxDown11
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:33 am to ThreauxDown11
Ole Miss has two 5-9 defensive backs...at some point I hope we try and exploit that with Dupre and Dural....
Also, some of you don't have great football Iq....they have a good defense, no doubt...but their competition against teams with a good offense has been highly lacking.....Bama isn't lights out on offense, especially on the road...see Arkansas.......and yet bama was able to run for over 150.....LSU will have success running the ball. If Jennings can help them out, LSU will win the game.
Also, some of you don't have great football Iq....they have a good defense, no doubt...but their competition against teams with a good offense has been highly lacking.....Bama isn't lights out on offense, especially on the road...see Arkansas.......and yet bama was able to run for over 150.....LSU will have success running the ball. If Jennings can help them out, LSU will win the game.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:33 am to MastrShake
See tiger n atl.....his post pretty much sums it up perfectly!
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:40 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Every coach has an over arching strategic philosophical approach to football. If you have to be told or explained to what Mile's philosophy is after 9 years of watching him I pity you. But basically it's: - run first is the best option, passing leads to turnovers (unbalanced) - limit mistakes by the QB even if that means making him 'just another player' (not an on the field general and playmaker) - avoid turnovers at all costs even if it means shutting down your offense and major playmakers/producers (see Jeremy Hill comment in this thread) - rely on defense to win games, make stands late in the game to 'save it' and 'get victory' - sit on a lead, don't attack when ahead -win games by a close margin, point differential doesn't matter, just win (win ugly)
This is the recipe for championships, isn't it? One exception, I don't think Les strives for close margin victories although he'd take a sure close margin of victory by getting conversative rather than "getting aggressive" late in the game and putting a victory at risk. So what if you run the ball, punt, and the other team scores late to make it close only to run out of time. That's just good football.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:42 am to Will Cover
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But I expect Jennings to have 200 + yards passing this upcoming weekend
Why? He's only hit 200 yards passing once in 8 career starts. I strongly doubt he does it against Ole Miss defense.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:19 pm to RedTigerRulz
quote:i already saw it. and it was so astoundingly dumb and wrong i was just gonna ignore it. but, fine, lets take a look.
See tiger n atl.....his post pretty much sums it up perfectly!
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limit mistakes by the QB even if that means making him 'just another player' ... rely on defense to win games, make stands late in the game to 'save it' and 'get victory'
for one, those are apostrophes when they're supposed to be quotation marks, but it doesn't matter anyway because that's not how quotes work. you cant just randomly use quotation marks to add authenticity to the shite you make up.
quote:jesus christ. ok, so be it, if the jeremy hill comment is your evidence, lets read it
avoid turnovers at all costs even if it means shutting down your offense and major playmakers/producers (see Jeremy Hill comment in this thread)
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Well, Jeremy Hill was standing on the sidelines for much of the first two quarters because he fumbled on the first drive. Therefore, Ole Miss' safeties were not as concerned about Terrance Magee and played a little deeper than they would have against Jeremy Hill.
yeah that never happened. literally none of it ever happened. he didnt fumble and he wasnt benched. here are LSUs drives in the first quarter.
heres the second quarter, and heres the second half.
he never fumbled, no one on LSU did, and his carries were evenly spaced throughout the game and split with Hilliard and Blue. considering this, hopefully you can understand why its hard to take his analysis seriously.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:20 pm to hondo
Yes, Good ole bo is gonna give us some short fields to work with
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:22 pm to hondo
Yes but the defense has to play stout.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:53 pm to MastrShake
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he (Hill) never fumbled, no one on LSU did,
The box score shows he fumbled on our first play from scrimmage.
LSU-OM '13 Box Score
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:02 pm to JBeam
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All of you realize that this is a veryddifferent Ole Miss team?
They lost 6 players on their two deep defense before playing us last year. Mett threw 3 first half interceptions, all coming on consecutive drives, yet LSU fans want us to throw all over them???? We abandoned the run game early, and people were pissed that we threw so much, and kept throwing.
I like our philosophy. With a good defense (we are getting better), we win most games. Will we beat Ole Miss, I surely do this so. Will it be because of the pass game, maybe (meaning a defining late game TD or converting a third down).
We've already seen this year from passing the ball, that it doesn't work very well against them no matter what kind of effective passing team you are. Memphis scared them because they could run the ball somewhat, and play defense. Bama ran the ball pretty well at 170 yards and their only offensive TD, was from the running game.
People have to have more faith in this team.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:04 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:i should have said he didn't lose the fumble. the point is that people are saying Miles made the Ole Miss D more effective by benching Hill bc the safeties didn't respect MaGee. that simply did not happen.
The box score shows he fumbled on our first play from scrimmage.
Hill had 16 carries, more than Hilliard (11), MaGee (3), and Blue (1) combined.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:05 pm to AlwysATgr
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The box score shows he fumbled on our first play from scrimmage.
He did.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:05 pm to hondo
A&M had over 400 yards passing on us and most of their yards came when they threw quick passes out to their receivers taking advantage of our soft coverage. If I'm Les, I'm throwing it to Dupree no less than 10 times.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:08 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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Ole Miss has two 5-9 defensive backs...at some point I hope we try and exploit that with Dupre and Dural....
This makes sense for sure, but I will be very surprised if it happens.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:11 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
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This week, Ole Miss has an outstanding rush defense and strong inside running game. Hope we try something different.
NO THEY DON'T. The only teams that have been able to challenge Ole Miss are the ones with at least a run game worth anything, and a solid defense. That was Alabama. Ole Miss has also looked like TAMU in the run game.
Ole Miss is ranked 84th in rushing you nimrod. They have 25 more attempts, but 200 less yards than TAMU. They have only played one power 5 team in the top 80 of rushing teams.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:33 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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run first is the best option
And that's different how from most successful SEC programs in most yrs.?
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limit mistakes by the QB even if that means making him 'just another player' (not an on the field general and playmaker)
You didn't watch LSU football much last yr., did you.
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sit on a lead
LSU scored 254 pts in the 1/2 of games in 2013 and 220 in the 2 1/2 of games. Doesn't seem like much of a difference for all this sitting on a lead you claim to be going on to win close.
It's amusing we are coming of one of the best passing yrs in our history, but still some want to push this myth of Miles wants to run 1st, 2nd, and last.
We lose a pretty fair, experienced QB, 2 pretty fair, experienced WRs, and a pretty fair, experienced RB and have to replace them with almost totally experienced players. Why would anyone be surprised with us going to the run more this season. Isnt that the smart play given our youth on O?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:03 pm to FAF
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If the defense plays well, we win.
Talk about the understatement of the year. Yall are going to have to play more than well. Yall will have to have both the offensive and defensive game of a lifetime with your current talent in order to beat us. We've played in front of 110,000 fans before and beat the dog shite out of them. Your stadium doesn't scare us in the slightest.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:15 pm to hondo
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OLE Miss leads the SEC in rush defense and we are 120 out of 128 schools in pass offense.
Our offense doesn't match up with their defense. You'd think a few new wrinkles would be called for.
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