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Calif drought story
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:23 am
This morning I tuned in to the call-in gardening radio show 'In the Garden with Ron Wilson' based in Ohio.
A guy called in from Calif. Sounded middle aged and he just wanted a shoulder to cry on.
His grass is dead. His 4 fruit trees are almost dead. He tried watering just the 4 trees against the law at 3 am and got caught and got a fine for $500. They are only allowed to wash their clothes once every two weeks. Same with washing dishes.
He lives in a nice neighborhood and all of the yards have nothing but dead vegetation. The only advice Ron could give was a product that stops transpiration of water vapor from the plant...kind of ceiling in moisture. But it probably won't work.
I'll never complain about my $30 a month water bill again. There are some good things about living in La. and abundant water is No. 1.
A guy called in from Calif. Sounded middle aged and he just wanted a shoulder to cry on.
His grass is dead. His 4 fruit trees are almost dead. He tried watering just the 4 trees against the law at 3 am and got caught and got a fine for $500. They are only allowed to wash their clothes once every two weeks. Same with washing dishes.
He lives in a nice neighborhood and all of the yards have nothing but dead vegetation. The only advice Ron could give was a product that stops transpiration of water vapor from the plant...kind of ceiling in moisture. But it probably won't work.
I'll never complain about my $30 a month water bill again. There are some good things about living in La. and abundant water is No. 1.
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Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:25 am to Zach
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His grass is dead. His 4 fruit trees are almost dead. He tried watering just the 4 trees against the law at 3 am and got caught and got a fine for $500. They are only allowed to wash their clothes once every two weeks. Same with washing dishes.
He lives in a nice neighborhood and all of the yards have nothing but dead vegetation. The only advice Ron could give was a product that stops transpiration of water vapor from the plant...kind of ceiling in moisture. But it probably won't work.
Obama.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:25 am to Zach
God hates California.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:28 am to LSURussian
If I lived in Cali I would have installed a ton of cisterns to catch any rainwater that went off my roof.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:29 am to eng08
And the homeowner's association would put you on trial. 
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:31 am to Zach
15 years ago Enron projected that water would be a valuable commodity to set up a trading market around.
I think they were right and way ahead of their time.
And Louisiana is long water so it stands that it could make good money. Let's start building those pipelines.
I think they were right and way ahead of their time.
And Louisiana is long water so it stands that it could make good money. Let's start building those pipelines.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:34 am to Zach
Why? You can bury them in the ground so they are not visible at all.
In LA there is a huge movement to try to capture the rainfall runoff they get. The city water dept is doing everything it can to try and re-use the rainwater since the only major water source they have is piped in or the ocean.
Since la has so much concrete the majority of the water just goes straight into the ocean.
Most major new projects all have cisterns and water-reuse infrastructure installed in it. Think grey water for toilet flushing.
Also they are trying to replenish the groundwater systems so they may just have a huge rainwater catch basin with an open flow path on the bottom in an attemp to resupy the groundwater.
In LA there is a huge movement to try to capture the rainfall runoff they get. The city water dept is doing everything it can to try and re-use the rainwater since the only major water source they have is piped in or the ocean.
Since la has so much concrete the majority of the water just goes straight into the ocean.
Most major new projects all have cisterns and water-reuse infrastructure installed in it. Think grey water for toilet flushing.
Also they are trying to replenish the groundwater systems so they may just have a huge rainwater catch basin with an open flow path on the bottom in an attemp to resupy the groundwater.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:34 am to Zach
I wonder if homeowners in Caliporniya are allowed to modify their plumbing so that "gray water" from the house can be used to water their grass and trees?
"Gray water" is water draining from the shower, bathtubs and sinks, not the toilets.
I have friends in Texas who have that type of plumbing drainage and it does a good job of "recycling" water than is not considered sewage.
"Gray water" is water draining from the shower, bathtubs and sinks, not the toilets.
I have friends in Texas who have that type of plumbing drainage and it does a good job of "recycling" water than is not considered sewage.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:36 am to Zach
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Zach Calif drought story And the homeowner's association would put you on trial.
Probably true...I have a friend in Texas who was fined $45000 for having a well on a piece of property he didn't know he owned. The same water authority dismissed the fine when they received proof that the well had been sealed....but in the process they discovered he had some cisterns on his storm drains between his property and the counties.....that $2500 fine stuck.
By the way if God hates California because of draughts then he holds Texas in equal disdain....
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:37 am to LSURussian
Yep, I think that grey water systems should be required in places like Cali.
It makes no sense to use high quality drinking water to flush a toilet.
It makes no sense to use high quality drinking water to flush a toilet.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:42 am to Zach
Building in a desert and being shocked at the lack of available water is almost as stupid as building a major city below sea level and being amazed when it floods.
Of course the real stupidity is doing either one and cussing the collective efforts of the nation to assist in paying for your stupidity....but most people in California probably don't do that... Louisiana on the other hand.....
Of course the real stupidity is doing either one and cussing the collective efforts of the nation to assist in paying for your stupidity....but most people in California probably don't do that... Louisiana on the other hand.....
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:42 am to Zach
I have my own well
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:44 am to germandawg
God forbid you know what's on the property you own.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:45 am to eng08
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Yep, I think that grey water systems should be required in places like Cali. It makes no sense to use high quality drinking water to flush a toilet.
I won some rental houses in Georgia and we have rain taxes ( I assume most places do). These taxes are based on the amount of roof and hard surfaces your property has. When they were fist started you could reduce the bill by using cisterns to collect runoff.....now that is not the case and almost no one goes the trouble and expense to install them....they are Great for lawn watering though but not cheap to install or maintain.....
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:49 am to eng08
quote:think that's illegal in cali, not to mention lack of rain is the problem.
If I lived in Cali I would have installed a ton of cisterns to catch any rainwater that went off my roof.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:49 am to germandawg
Why would you get a fine for having cisterns? Especially if they were already there and he didn't install them
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:50 am to germandawg
I know a gut who owns a large tract of land adjacent to a scenic river in east central Georgia and he has been planning a development for years. Part of his plan is to have a community water system (loads of water in the area) and more interestingly a private water treatment plant where all gray water, including storm water, is rotted to a settlement pond while toilet water is routed to a community septic system. It is a regulatory nightmare but if he ever gets it approved it will be a greenies dream development.....
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:51 am to germandawg
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Building in a desert and being shocked at the lack of available water is almost as stupid as building a major city below sea level and being amazed when it floods.
This wasn't the desert. The guy said he lived in 'the bay area' so I assume that's near San Francisco.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:53 am to arcalades
Well I think it depends where you are if it's illegal or not.
My buddy in CO in the high desert it's illegal to have them bc of water rights when he bought the property - it did not come with any rights.
In the city of la I doubt it is illegal since they are actively promoting it.
I'm sure it is illegal in rural areas that are governed by the water rights laws - think the cliven bundy issues earlier this year. It was partly about water rights.
My buddy in CO in the high desert it's illegal to have them bc of water rights when he bought the property - it did not come with any rights.
In the city of la I doubt it is illegal since they are actively promoting it.
I'm sure it is illegal in rural areas that are governed by the water rights laws - think the cliven bundy issues earlier this year. It was partly about water rights.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:54 am to germandawg
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I won some rental houses in Georgia
Huh?
Redeemed from a Tax Sale maybe?
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