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Well, it seems that Ebola is airborne, and no...not just within 3 feet - CIDRAP
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:30 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:30 am
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We believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.1
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The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run.
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There has been a lot of on-line and published controversy about whether Ebola virus can be transmitted via aerosols. Most scientific and medical personnel, along with public health organizations, have been unequivocal in their statements that Ebola can be transmitted only by direct contact with virus-laden fluids2,3 and that the only modes of transmission we should be concerned with are those termed "droplet" and "contact."
These statements are based on two lines of reasoning. The first is that no one located at a distance from an infected individual has contracted the disease, or the converse, every person infected has had (or must have had) "direct" contact with the body fluids of an infected person.
This reflects an incorrect and outmoded understanding of infectious aerosols, which has been institutionalized in policies, language, culture, and approaches to infection control. We will address this below. Briefly, however, the important points are that virus-laden bodily fluids may be aerosolized and inhaled while a person is in proximity to an infectious person and that a wide range of particle sizes can be inhaled and deposited throughout the respiratory tract.
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Modern research, using more sensitive instruments and analytic methods, has shown that aerosols emitted from the respiratory tract contain a wide distribution of particle sizes—including many that are small enough to be inhaled.5,6 Thus, both small and large particles will be present near an infectious person.
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This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 10:34 am
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:38 am to CptBengal
Only those that haven't researched this any further than CNN or their MoveOn.org talking points already know this.
Thanks for posting though.
Thanks for posting though.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:42 am to CptBengal
It's airborne. It took a plane to get here.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:42 am to CptBengal
This was not really true. Look in the WHO thread
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:45 am to notiger1997
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This was not really true. Look in the WHO thread
So you're calling an article by CIDRAP and the University of Minnesota false?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:45 am to CptBengal
I am not sure whether this is true or not. However, the simple fact is the PPE given to the healthcare workers at presby were ridiculously ineffective.
One should look at the gear used in africa where they treat ebola patients.
The problem with the cdc and presby hospital and the such is that they are run by politicians instead of physicians.
They allowed these healthcare workers to go in to see these patients with exposed skin. Now I understand completely that intact skin in impervious to the virus. There is no doubt about that. However the virus is still active if droplets containing the virus get on the skin.
If you watch people, you will realize that they are constantly touching themselves and then touching their face. Bam. That is really all it takes.
You have politicians making recommendations over doctors. You have hospital administrators making recommendations over doctors. And then you have doctors following the cdc and administrators recommendations. Really a backwards situation.
I honestly do not know if a respirator is warranted or not. But I do know that I want every inch of everything exposed to ebola patients to be covered.
And my choice would be a n95 and full protective gear over the crap that presby used and a respirator.
One should look at the gear used in africa where they treat ebola patients.
The problem with the cdc and presby hospital and the such is that they are run by politicians instead of physicians.
They allowed these healthcare workers to go in to see these patients with exposed skin. Now I understand completely that intact skin in impervious to the virus. There is no doubt about that. However the virus is still active if droplets containing the virus get on the skin.
If you watch people, you will realize that they are constantly touching themselves and then touching their face. Bam. That is really all it takes.
You have politicians making recommendations over doctors. You have hospital administrators making recommendations over doctors. And then you have doctors following the cdc and administrators recommendations. Really a backwards situation.
I honestly do not know if a respirator is warranted or not. But I do know that I want every inch of everything exposed to ebola patients to be covered.
And my choice would be a n95 and full protective gear over the crap that presby used and a respirator.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:46 am to CptBengal
I mean, this is totally belied by real world results, but whatev
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:49 am to Pettifogger
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I mean, this is totally belied by real world results, but whatev
Do you even know who CIDRAP is?
This is hilarious, you should trust the CDC because they're "experts"....
But actual research scientists in infectious disease...they're LIARS!
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:49 am to Pettifogger
At this point in time as long as Ebola has been around my question is...how do we not know?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:50 am to notiger1997
quote:The reference is to aerosolization. Not the same as an airborne virus. However, for healthcare workers within confines of an exam room or an ICU room, particles containing virus may well be airborne following sneezing or cough. That is the point.
This was not really true.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:51 am to NC_Tigah
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he reference is to aerosolization. Not the same as an airborne virus. However, for healthcare workers within confines of an exam room or an ICU room, particles containing virus may well be airborne following sneezing or cough. That is the point.
read the article...it turns out that even microaerosols can cause a problem here, and that even with dissipation of larger particles into micro aerosols, they then remain airborne for an extended period of time.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:51 am to CptBengal
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But actual research scientists in infectious disease...they're LIARS!
Only research scientists that tell you what you want to believe, amIright?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:52 am to CptBengal
Another Ebola panic thread. 
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:53 am to UPT
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Only research scientists that tell you what you want to believe, amIright?
only ones who publish their work. Oh wait, you're talking about global warming, arent you proggie?
Well on one hand we have have research scientists who publish their work and go through rigorous peer review.
On the other we have Al gore lying and becoming a billionare.
I'll leave you to figure out which side to believe.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:53 am to TT9
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Another Ebola panic thread
No, just some facts about Ebola from actual experts and not political appointees.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:55 am to CptBengal
quote:Viruses mutate. All the time. Influenza viruses mutate annually. Ebola has been around (among humans) at least since 1976, probably a lot longer. The Ebola virus is mutating. No one knows for sure how it will mutate.
Well, it seems that Ebola is airborne
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:56 am to TT9
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Another Ebola panic thread.
You attacking the poster instead of the post shite is getting old.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:57 am to TT9
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Another Ebola panic thread
Your a liar.
Please show panic in thread or stfu.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:57 am to CptBengal
your subject line is deceptive and false
from CIDRAP
from CIDRAP
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CIDRAP has not made claims that "Ebola is Airbone" or that "Ebola [is] Transmittable by Air."
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:58 am to Homesick Tiger
It got old for me a long time ago, it's all i do is get attacked here.
I mean most viruses are airborne. I just can't stand all this worrying for nothing.
I mean most viruses are airborne. I just can't stand all this worrying for nothing.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 10:59 am
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