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Fishing shrimp boats in Venice for YFT
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:45 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:45 am
I've done quite a few overnighters to drill ships and floaters for tuna, but would like to go out tomorrow during the day and fish shrimp boats, as I've heard that's where the big dogs are. Any advice on the following would be appreciated from those with experience:
1) What area to look for boats
2) Ideal water depth and/or color
3) technique - chunking, jigging, popping, trolling?
4) how long to fish one until you give up and move on to another
Thanks for any help you guys can provide. I promise to post pics after the trip!
Here's a pic from the last trip to floaters:
1) What area to look for boats
2) Ideal water depth and/or color
3) technique - chunking, jigging, popping, trolling?
4) how long to fish one until you give up and move on to another
Thanks for any help you guys can provide. I promise to post pics after the trip!
Here's a pic from the last trip to floaters:
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 9:48 am
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:53 am to Big L
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1) What area to look for boats
West Delta usually
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2) Ideal water depth and/or color
I've seen YFT in 150 ft behind shrimp boats. Anything other than brown.
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3) technique - chunking, jigging, popping, trolling?
Pull up to back of boat. Trade a case of cheap beer for a champagne of chum. Chunk, setting out lines as you drift away from the shrimp boat. Try larger chunks or cut bonita to deter sharks. Also try weights to get below bonita.
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) how long to fish one until you give up and move on to another
20-30 minutes for this guy.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:01 am to Motorboat
Thanks Motorboat for the info. I've never traded anything with a shrimper but hear about guys in Texas doing it all the time for shrimp. What is this "champagne" chum you are talking about? I'm assuming you mean the nastiest stuff they have on board...LOL
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:04 am to Big L
Usually their by catch...croakers and shite
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:08 am to JAB528
don't expect to be able to get the by catch or chum tomorrow from a shrimper. It will be a parking lot out there and most of the boats wont do it if there are a lot of people asking...At least that my experience. Bring 100lbs of pogies and catch a few bonita off the first boat.
Catch some live hard tails on way out as well!
Catch some live hard tails on way out as well!
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:12 am to Big L
What kind of boat are ya'll running? I just bought an offshore capable rig and can't wait to do some tuna fishing as well. Looks like the front deck of a catamaran in the pic you posted and nice haul 
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:26 am to Big L
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What is this "champagne" chum you are talking about?
The name of the basket.
But as others have said, bring chum in case the deal cannot be made.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:46 am to Big L
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Ok, get a bunch of chum, since it's your first trip don't count on bartering with the boats, buy at least 100lbs ( that's a minimum) of pogies. Get a couple of rods with at least 80# hopefully more than 300 yds. Tie on some circle hooks directly on the line, 9/0 -12/0 size. Ok now were ready to try! go to a shrimp boat in 200' +/- or so, if there are other boats there wait your turn as they drift back ,then get between the cable and the stern corner of the shrimp boat with your boats bow about even with the boats stern then throw, scatter, a good bit of precut chum put your boat in neutral start drifting back in neutral, throw out one or two lines with baited hooks (cut or whole poggie) and all the while continue chumming. If you get a bunch of line out without getting bit, then reel in an redeploy the hook bats, all the time chumming. If your don't get any bites go back and do again. So be ready before you take your turn, precut poggies, bait the lines all before you pull up. The neutral, the beginning of chum and putting in the hook baits should be done all at about the same time, no messing around. You need drag setting of at least 20 lbs, the more you can handle the better. Oh, leave the rods in the holders all the time!! then leave rods in free spool while you hand pull it off the rod tip and if a fish takes it let it go till its buzzing the reel pretty good then push lever drag to strike, only after the fish is hooked good should you take it out the rod holder. Good luck and pick a good day. You need to have a crew meeting with a question and answer session before so at least everybody has a vague idea of what to do and someone need to be the quarterback and call the plays. And one more thing, the reels should to be lever drag unless you are really good with a star drag. If you don't have the lever drag then give it a try anyway, that way you will see what to do next time. ps, be sure the poggies are completely thawed before you start fishing, if not the will probably float on top, not good!
Credit to Knotreel on Thehulltruth
Sorry Clint I didnt see your link.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 11:47 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:56 am to arowana
If you can find a school of mullet catch a few with a cast net that has been the bait of choice for the last week. By catch is also the preferred bait but as other said gonna be hard to get over the weekend.
Don't forget to try and fish under the ocean liners at anchor either.
Don't forget to try and fish under the ocean liners at anchor either.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:53 pm to Da Hammer
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Don't forget to try and fish under the ocean liners at anchor either.
'splain?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:16 pm to arowana
I've been with dudes who do it WAY better than that. Not even sure I should explain how they do it since they are professionals and they took me for free.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:17 pm to bayoudude
25 foot cat boat..nothing special. It's a great fishing platform with tons of deck space and tons of storage, but it's slow and only holds 180 gals of fuel, so we bring another 40-50 on overnight trips. I wish we had one in the low to mid-30's to get even more deck space and better room for bean bag sleeping.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 3:15 pm to Gaston
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I've been with dudes who do it WAY better than that.
They plasti-dip their 50w's?
That's pretty basic but about all there is to it, any tweeking is gonna be a response to what species are on that particular shrimp boat.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 3:38 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Not really. There were pogies and a shrimp boat, I give you that. The other fish on the deck were responsible for the chum, these guys were hand fed.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 4:57 pm to Gaston
I've caught YF 16 miles out in 70ft of water behind shrimp boats in Fourchon. It's not that hard
Posted on 10/17/14 at 5:06 pm to Gaston
Not sure what you're talking about, but that post was pretty spot on. Usually use a fluoro leader and slightly smaller hooks, but that's about it. Bring a lot of chum, use any trash fish you catch as more chum/bait, be ready to cut off/break off a lot of sharks and retie hooks. Have a lot of hooks, you'll go through plenty.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 5:07 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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They plasti-dip their 50w's?
Lulz
Posted on 10/17/14 at 5:45 pm to Boats n Hose
Those YF were hand fed. Baited hook directly out of the captains hand right into the path of the YF. Every single guy in the boat sees that monster take it and it's ON. Get another YF rolling and do it again, double up. Doubled up twice and caught 4 monsters. Didn't even feed the non-desirables a hook, no trash fish, no sharks, 4 hooks. I may not be explaining it well, and I left out a bunch, but it sure as frick isn't what that post describes.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 10/17/14 at 6:22 pm to Gaston
VIDEO?
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