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East Baton Rouge Parish School Board neglecting major assets
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:15 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:15 am
with not maintaining buildings in the EBRPSS. Malfeasance and neglect by not making necessary repairs to major assets. They are the landlord and owner of the building. The RSD is a tenant only.
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Now it's ignorance! Who owns the buildings. They do not have the taxpayers interest by being negligent.
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Now it's ignorance! Who owns the buildings. They do not have the taxpayers interest by being negligent.
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:20 am to WindboyCajun
It's not as cut and dried as you make it sound. From your link:
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Under state school takeover law, the parish school system remains the owner of the school buildings but has little say over what happens there.
“We are a landlord with no rights,” Taylor said.
RSD is responsible for repairs and maintenance, while the school system is responsible for “extensive repair to buildings or facilities that would be considered to be a capital expense” but does not define what constitutes capital expense.
This lack of clarity has been the root of the dispute.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:27 am to LSURussian
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It's not as cut and dried as you make it sound.
True, disputes between tenants and landlords are quite common because a maintenance item to one person may be a capital problem to another.
If the AC is down is it because the unit needs repair, or because the unit has passed its life expectancy?
Do you have alighting problem because a breaker is bad, or because the wiring is faulty?
Do you need a new roof or is there just a patch required.
It isn't cut and dried.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:33 am to LSURussian
Then who is protecting the taxpaying public by letting the buildings deteriorate! Who is the fiscal agent for receiving the tax revenues, the EBRPSS! Who was responsible for building the buildings, the EBRPSS! then the responsibility for major or minor repairs should be the EBRPSS!
They act like the City-Parish Council who has an abundance of idiots, including the one that represents the Southwestern section of the city!
Quit this litigation mentality and make the repairs, then determine who pays what later. While our tax dollars go down the drain. Refer to previous paragraph!
They act like the City-Parish Council who has an abundance of idiots, including the one that represents the Southwestern section of the city!
Quit this litigation mentality and make the repairs, then determine who pays what later. While our tax dollars go down the drain. Refer to previous paragraph!
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:48 am to WindboyCajun
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Calm down, Phyllis.
The EBRSS would be wasting local taxpayer money if it fixed all the maintenance issues if the RSD is actually responsible for those types of repairs.
What is your agenda here because it's obvious you're not being rational?
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:55 am to LSURussian
How is that money wasted by maintaining taxpayer funded facilities?
That is an investment by the citizens of East Baton Rouge Parish. You must like watching assets deteriorate, just like the roads and bridges in this parish.
You must be in that range of idiots on the EBRPSS and the EBR City Council! I know that you are in favor of annexing thousands of acres of farm land that pays only hundreds of dollars of taxes to the EBRPSS and EBRP. You don't know anything about investment only spending!
That is an investment by the citizens of East Baton Rouge Parish. You must like watching assets deteriorate, just like the roads and bridges in this parish.
You must be in that range of idiots on the EBRPSS and the EBR City Council! I know that you are in favor of annexing thousands of acres of farm land that pays only hundreds of dollars of taxes to the EBRPSS and EBRP. You don't know anything about investment only spending!
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:04 am to WindboyCajun
quote:Because if the RSD is supposed to be making the needed repairs, I don't want the local school system spending its maintenance money on that school instead of spending money on other schools that need maintaining.
How is that money wasted by maintaining taxpayer funded facilities?
quote:That's right. It's what I live for....
You must like watching assets deteriorate
quote:Another ! was needed here?
You must be in that range of idiots on the EBRPSS and the EBR City Council!
quote:(Another ! here?) You're right. That's how I became a self-made multi millionaire....not knowing anything about investment spending.
You don't know anything about investment only spending!
You didn't answer my question: what is your agenda for being so hysterical about this issue?
Just be honest. We're all friends here....
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:16 am to LSURussian
Is not the goal of the RSD to improve student performance to an extent that the local school board can resume operation of the school? If so, then the local school district should have an incentive to provide the RSD with fully functional facilities to allow the RSD to accomplish its goals as rapidly as possible.
It seems to me that the EBRPSB is cutting off its nose to spite its face. The goal should be to do whatever is necessary to aid in the education of the students. Not to score petty political points.
It seems to me that the EBRPSB is cutting off its nose to spite its face. The goal should be to do whatever is necessary to aid in the education of the students. Not to score petty political points.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:17 am to WindboyCajun
From the same article-
So on election day no school,but the teachers have a Professional Development. Some want that day to be move so not to cause problems with voting. But it the school system would lose $2 million worth of productivity.
How could it possibly cost $2 million to tell the teachers instead of having the Professional Development on 11/4, the professional development will be on another day when students aren't in school?
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Taylor, however, said giving employees the day off would require employees working another day later and would result in $2 million worth of lost productivity. He promised to find ways to get employees out of the way of voters.
So on election day no school,but the teachers have a Professional Development. Some want that day to be move so not to cause problems with voting. But it the school system would lose $2 million worth of productivity.
How could it possibly cost $2 million to tell the teachers instead of having the Professional Development on 11/4, the professional development will be on another day when students aren't in school?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:37 am to WindboyCajun
This episode proves just how inefficient govt. can be.
While each side is blaming the other, serious damage could be done that a minor repair could have prevented, but because the two entities were arguing it grew into a major problem.
Remember too, the EBRSS let the roof leak at the Lee High Auditorium back in the day to the point where the structural steel was effected and the structural integrity of the building was lost. As a result the building had to be demolished.
Like in medicine, an ounce of prevention is important in taking care of buildings.
If it were my building I would I would make regular inspections to see if my "tenant" was doing his part, and if he wasn't I would put him on notice. If he didn't respond, I would take measures to prevent major damage and we'd just have to settle in court.
You just can't let a school decay while you argue about whose job it is to fix problems.
While each side is blaming the other, serious damage could be done that a minor repair could have prevented, but because the two entities were arguing it grew into a major problem.
Remember too, the EBRSS let the roof leak at the Lee High Auditorium back in the day to the point where the structural steel was effected and the structural integrity of the building was lost. As a result the building had to be demolished.
Like in medicine, an ounce of prevention is important in taking care of buildings.
If it were my building I would I would make regular inspections to see if my "tenant" was doing his part, and if he wasn't I would put him on notice. If he didn't respond, I would take measures to prevent major damage and we'd just have to settle in court.
You just can't let a school decay while you argue about whose job it is to fix problems.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:23 am to doubleb
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where the structural steel was effected (sic) and the structural integrity of the building was lost. As a result the building had to be demolished.
You're close but not totally correct.
When the water damage was being investigated (along with some other repair issues) it was discovered any extensive repairs would involve some serious asbestos issues. It was decided that a tear down and rebuild was cost justifiable and would prevent any future asbestos issues and avoid some potentially serious lawsuits if students were knowingly allowed to attend a school with known asbestos problems.
So it wasn't so easy to just repair the water leak that you make it out to be.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:25 am to TigerintheNO
quote:I don't understand your issue with the decision to allow teachers to work on 11/4 rather than change the students' schedules.
How could it possibly cost $2 million to tell the teachers instead of having the Professional Development on 11/4, the professional development will be on another day when students aren't in school?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:27 am to Poodlebrain
quote:How is it scoring "petty political points"?? I agree with not spending local taxpayers' money on repairs when the state is supposed to provide those repairs and absorb the costs for them.
It seems to me that the EBRPSB is cutting off its nose to spite its face. The goal should be to do whatever is necessary to aid in the education of the students. Not to score petty political points.
I'm surprised an accountant doesn't understand that issue.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:36 am to WindboyCajun
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This post was edited on 10/30/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:40 am to LSURussian
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I don't understand your issue with the decision to allow teachers to work on 11/4 rather than change the students' schedules.
Wouldn't effect the students schedule at all, they already don't have school.
Also I don't care if the teachers get the day off or not. What I want to know is how if the teachers have their Professional Development on Ash Wednesday instead of election day, why would the system lose $2 million.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:43 am to TigerintheNO
quote:Either you or I are misunderstanding what Taylor said his options are.
What I want to know is how if the teachers have their Professional Development on Ash Wednesday instead of election day, why would the system lose $2 million.
I vote you.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:55 am to LSURussian
I don't know about the other stuff since it got off topic.
I thought it was about ebprdaycare not keeping their properties up.
On commercial property I would think it would be pretty simple who is responsible for maintenance. Typically any improvements inside is tenant and structure is property owner.
Being this is involving two different forms of govt either way the tax payers lose.
If people blame the EBRPdaycare (school board) the residence in the EBrpss pays.
If people blame RSD mandatory day care the state will pay which again means we all pay.
Either way we lose.
Typically when RSD came along and took over the building the maintenance responsibilities should have been settled.
I thought it was about ebprdaycare not keeping their properties up.
On commercial property I would think it would be pretty simple who is responsible for maintenance. Typically any improvements inside is tenant and structure is property owner.
Being this is involving two different forms of govt either way the tax payers lose.
If people blame the EBRPdaycare (school board) the residence in the EBrpss pays.
If people blame RSD mandatory day care the state will pay which again means we all pay.
Either way we lose.
Typically when RSD came along and took over the building the maintenance responsibilities should have been settled.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:10 pm to johnnyrocket
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I thought it was about ebprdaycare
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:20 pm to LSURussian
HA! HA! HA! HA!
Self made multi-millionaire! Then my son is President of the United States!
Self made multi-millionaire spends time posting on Tiger Dropping! Supreme Idiot!
Self made multi-millionaire! Then my son is President of the United States!
Self made multi-millionaire spends time posting on Tiger Dropping! Supreme Idiot!
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:27 pm to WindboyCajun
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You seem immature.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 1:29 pm
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