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NBA owners could split a $1 billion pot if they can force Bucks to Seattle

Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:07 pm
Posted by RTR America
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:07 pm
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In May, the NBA approved the sale of the Bucks to new owners Wesley Edens and Marc Lasry for a then-NBA record $550 million.

Shortly after the sale, Brian Windhorst and Marc Stein of ESPN.com learned that as part of the agreement, the NBA had the right to buy back the team for $575 million if a new arena was not approved, built, and ready to use by November, 2017.


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the Donald Sterling fiasco in Los Angeles happened and Steve Ballmer bought the Clippers for $2 billion. Now, five months later, the Bucks still don't even have a location for a new stadium and the Bucks are worth a lot more than $575 million


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If the Bucks can't get a new stadium built before the deadline, the NBA could buy the team for $575 million and then turn around and sell the team to a group in Seattle for an estimated $1.6 billion.

That would be a cool $1.025 billion profit for the league or about $35.3 million for each of the other 29 owners. As Simmons put it, "it's in [the NBA's] vested interest for Milwaukee not to have an arena."
Posted by jefffan
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:11 pm to
So do the Grizz move back East? Or NOLA?
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:14 pm to
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Or NOLA?


That would be sweet
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:15 pm to
That seems a little fishy. The NBA could force the new owners to sell back to them for a relatively paltry profit and then resell the team to a Seattle group?

I just can't see any group of owners with the scratch to buy a team being dumb enough to give that much control up.

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An alternative theory proposed by Simmons is that the NBA could agree to not buy the team if the new Bucks owners agree to not build a new arena and pony up some more money — presumably a transfer fee of a few hundred million — and they would be able to remain owners by moving the team to Seattle.


This theory makes a little more sense but still presumes a lot.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:17 pm to
i'd hate to see another fanbase have their team taken away, if this happens then hopefully Milwaukee gets an NHL team shortly after.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:23 pm to
Congrats Seattle
Posted by QuackAttack716
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:28 pm to
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So do the Grizz move back East? Or NOLA?



geographically, it should be Memphis to the East. Central Division team.

OKC to the Southwest division, Seattle to the Northwest Division.

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:35 pm to
Will she be following the team?

This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:36 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:38 pm to
Milwaukee is definitely not going to build an arena the bucks or so unpopular and I'm so bummed about it

this team will be a blast to watch in a year or so
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:38 pm
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:41 pm to
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f the Bucks can't get a new stadium built before the deadline, the NBA could buy the team for $575 million and then turn around and sell the team to a group in Seattle for an estimated $1.6 billion.



If that is the case why wouldn't the current owners build the stadium themselves or sell the team themselves. Whats a totally state of the art basketball stadium cost? 200-300 mil MAX???
Posted by Akit1
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:51 pm to
Bummed to hear that. Franchise has been there since 1970ish. Hate seeing small market teams move.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 10:52 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:53 pm to
Yeah basically they just have to keep the city of Milwaukee from building a new stadium.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:54 pm to
She is so hot.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:11 pm to
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If that is the case why wouldn't the current owners build the stadium themselves or sell the team themselves.


That's my problem with this "theory".

A (presumably) savvy group of rich types with the cash to buy an NBA team are totally cool with including in the contract the ability for the NBA to buy back the team and give them a profit of "only" 25 million and then they'll be the ones to collect a cool billion on the sale? And forget the Clippers situation, which was unable to be predicted. They knew the new TV contracts were coming up that would greatly increase the value of the teams but they'll be cool with cashing out for original sale price plus 25 million.

OK.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:17 pm to
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If that is the case why wouldn't the current owners build the stadium themselves or sell the team themselves.


The end of the article states that there is an option for the owners to pay more to remain owners of the team, but it will still move if no arena is built. Milwaukee is currently playing in the oldest arena in the NBA.

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Whats a totally state of the art basketball stadium cost? 200-300 mil MAX???


The Fedex Forum is relatively new and cost around $250m. The issue is most arena's are publicly funded buildings.

Newest arena's:

Barclay's in Brooklyn (2012): $1 billion, $200m was from the owner
Amway in Orlando (2010): $480m, but it apparently over budget
TWC in Charlotte (2005): $314m

Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:18 pm to
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A (presumably) savvy group of rich types with the cash to buy an NBA team are totally cool with including in the contract the ability for the NBA to buy back the team and give them a profit of "only" 25 million and then they'll be the ones to collect a cool billion on the sale?


The contract is very real. The rumor is asking them to not build a new arena.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:23 pm to
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The contract is very real.


If you've got a link I'd love to see it because that's pretty amazing. They knew NBA team values were about to increase by an incredible amount just from new TV contracts so boxing themselves out and passing up cashing in on the potential true value of the team in exchange for a 5 percent profit margin is incredible.

If Roger Goodell is worth 45 million then Adam Silver is worth 150 million for that alone.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:28 pm to
I mean it makes perfect sense for a new arena to be a part of the contract considering the standing of their current arena. I don't see what is so unbelievable about that.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:34 pm to
Paying a then record sum for a franchise and being told that the franchise can, in effect, be yanked from them if they don't get a new arena in 5 years doesn't seem a little far fetched. Just an itty bitty bit?

Or am I reading this wrong and they simply have the option to sell back to the NBA? Like 480 said, why wouldn't the current owners get to dictate whom they sell to?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 11:38 pm to
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Paying a then record sum for a franchise and being told that the franchise can, in effect, be yanked from them if they don't get a new arena in 5 years doesn't seem a little far fetched. Just an itty bitty bit?


I feel like there has been similar things listed in contracts in the past. Seems like a standard operating procedure from a professional sports league.

This is from April

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