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re: "conservatives worry about threats to America---except the ones really kill" -JS

Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:40 pm to
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Everything in that video is correct.
No question.

Absolutely.

Everything in that video is as correct as it would have been were it to ridicule DC area residents' concern during the Malvo-Muhammed DC Beltway Sniper Attacks
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:41 pm to
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And if you ever actually open your minds from your narrow little views you will see that.

never gonna happen.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:44 pm to
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you may have misconscrewed my post
Don't know what you were trying to say there . . .

. . . but hopefully geauxtigs99 enjoyed the experience








upvoted

This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:48 pm to
The right actually has two ideas to "fix" healthcare - tort reform and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Neither will really help healthcare costs, but then neither does ACA but at least it insures more people.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111496 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:50 pm to
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Neither will really help healthcare costs, but then neither does ACA but at least it insures more people.

Both would lower insurance costs. Just not drastically. Tort reform could probably lower premiums ~5% over the long haul. I'd guess that selling across state lines would have a lesser impact.

Transparent pricing is also a conservative idea. That would have a nice impact upon healthcare costs, IMO.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:54 pm to
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tort reform and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Neither will really help healthcare costs
Good Lord.
Please tell me you're joking.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:54 pm to
it was a figurative play on words
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:55 pm to
You pulled that entire OP straight from your arse.

Impressive, tbqh.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:57 pm to
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it was a figurative play on words
Hilarious!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72016 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 3:58 pm to
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The right has NO PLAN for healthcare.
So, there hasn't been a single plan proposed by any Republicans or conservatives?
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5183 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:02 pm to
have you ever seen the adds for auto insurance on television? know why the big auto insurers had to drop their prices, because Geico and General and Progressive are all competitive with All State and State Farm and those guys were forced to drop their prices to compete with the discount insurers,

it would absolutely drive prices down, why are these statewide health insurance monopolies allowed to exist in the first place?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:02 pm to
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Please tell me you're joking.


On tort reform, it's possible in the long run it might, but Texas recently has some pretty sweeping tort reforms and it hasn't had much of an impact on healthcare costs.

And maybe it's just the cynic in me, but if competition is opened across state lines, the carriers will just set their premiums at the high end, so states with cheaper insurance will see huge premium increases. Again, maybe in the long run things will balance out.

To wit though, I'm not really against either measure. I wish the right would accept ACA and work more to fine tune it instead of fighting it at every turn. The way it was written it is going to be nearly impossible to repeal without some type of replacement already in plan. Yes, it's a horrible plan overall, but take the good and work on fixing the bad.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64159 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:04 pm to
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I wish the right would accept ACA


Well its the law.

I hope its repealed and will vote for a tree if it promised to fight for just that.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72016 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:04 pm to
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Yes, it's a horrible plan overall, but take the good and work on fixing the bad.
It is very hard to fix something that is overwhelmingly bad.

The problem is also that it is harder to delete the crappy bill and start over.

Either way, we are fricked.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52749 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:06 pm to
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- tort reform and opening insurance competition across state lines.

Neither will really help healthcare costs


Are you serious?

Competition ALWAYS drives prices of goods down. And reduced litigation will definitely reduce overall healthcare costs.

How do you no see that?
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:06 pm to
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Well its the law.

Although not one written in stone. Appears to be the most pliable piece of legislation in history.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Texas recently has some pretty sweeping tort reforms
Wrong!

Texas has not smelled Tort Reform.
Texas revised its Tort Laws. That's it. It was a tweak of a horrible system. Nothing more.

No country in the world outside of the US would consider instituting the Texas Law instead of their own.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 4:13 pm to
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And reduced litigation will definitely reduce overall healthcare costs.
Better yet. Reduce litigation. Double injured-party settlements, and Drastically reduce costs.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123779 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:28 pm to
where'd you geaux Spleen?
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19277 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 5:40 pm to
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The right has NO PLAN for healthcare.
The government has no business being involved in the health care market at all so why do I need a plan for health care outside of repealing obamacare??
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