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re: MLS calls news conference at 3 PM to respond to Klinsmann

Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:36 pm to
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It's not Klinsmanns job to run or prop up the MLS.


While true in a vacuum, it would make his job a hell of a lot easier with a better domestic league.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Garber now putting on the record that he believes Donovan should have gone to the World Cup

I would have been surprised if Garber agreed with Klinsmann leaving him off.

I support Garber defending his league but at the end of the day Klinsmann is entitled to his opinion. It's not going to help his rapport with the MLS guys when he says stuff like that but that's his problem.
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:45 pm to
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While true in a vacuum, it would make his job a hell of a lot easier with a better domestic league.


Yea, but there's not a whole lot he can do besides not talk crap. At the same time if anyone is surprised that Klinsmann is an a-hole then I wouldn't consider them a very informed fan.
Every coach has his way to motivate, and Klinsmann is going to talk shite to motivate. That's why him and the Golden Boy Donovan never worked out.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:47 pm to
This is true. Most people were excited about hiring Klinsmann, but he is a shite-talking angry German. And we knew that from the start.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70727 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:51 pm to
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Yea, but there's not a whole lot he can do besides not talk crap. At the same time if anyone is surprised that Klinsmann is an a-hole then I wouldn't consider them a very informed fan.


I actually have never had any issue with JK wanting his best players in Europe. I was pretty pissed when both Bradley and Dempsey came back right before the World Cup.

However, to make a big deal out of this months after a World Cup where he called in Davis and Wondo and just finishing up a camp where he called in a dude from the NASL who couldn't even hack it in MLS, makes Klinsi look ignorant.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:53 pm to
I think its kind of funny that many of the same people in this thread that are bashing Klinsman have echoed his sentiment when some key USMNT players moved back to the MLS.

Posted by LuckyTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:54 pm to
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Every coach has his way to motivate, and Klinsmann is going to talk shite to motivate. That's why him and the Golden Boy Donovan never worked out.

I'm not sure it is going to work out between him and US Soccer (the overall apparatus) either. I have a feeling that Jurgen is going to have a very messy exit from US Soccer regardless of whether we do well or poorly at the next World Cup.
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I think its kind of funny that many of the same people in this thread that are bashing Klinsman have echoed his sentiment when some key USMNT players moved back to the MLS.

That doesn't mean MLS is complete crap just cause we want our best players to continue challenge themselves.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 4:58 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70727 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I'm not sure it is going to work out between him and US Soccer (the overall apparatus) either. I have a feeling that Jurgen is going to have a very messy exit from US Soccer regardless of whether we do well or poorly at the next World Cup.



I'm not sure about that. The program direly needed someone to rock the boat and he's definitely doing that. Sure there have been some stupid shite that he's done, but I think our stock is largely on the rise.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27421 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 4:58 pm to
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That doesn't mean MLS is complete crap just cause we want our best player to continue challenge themselves.


Did Jurgen call the MLS "complete crap"?
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:04 pm to
So, Don is all upset because Jurgen voiced an opinion that most everyone agrees with.

Ok.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45153 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:08 pm to
I agree. I just think you are going to have some key power players in US Soccer that do not like each other (they don't like Jurgen, he doesn't like them) let some shite fly from time to time. By the time Jurgen leaves I think everyone will have had enough of each other and won't be shy about letting it be known.

Jurgen at US is almost like Mancini at City lol.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 5:11 pm
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:12 pm to
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So, Don is all upset because Jurgen voiced an opinion that most everyone agrees with


Pretty much.
Was it a douche bag move? Yes
Was it needed to be said? No
The MLS is on the rise, and anyone compairing it to the BPL, La Liga, Bundasliga, or Serie A is a complete idiot because out of the hundreds of leagues across the globe these are the standard. Doesn't mean its a failure to not be there in less than 10 years or so of the leagues existence.

Was he right? Yea

ETA: Should this start the beginning of the end? Hell No
Should people start changing their opinions about him? Well if you stuck by his Donovan decision, then you really shouldn't change your opinion now.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 5:50 pm to
Can anyone post JKs actual comments? How bad were they?

ETA: I'm an uninformed fan and I realize the MLS is not even close to EPL, La Liga, Serie A, BL.....

Watching the MLS is almost painful. It's slow, the fans are quiet, and the lack of overall ball control is evident to a novice viewer. That latest friendly US vs Honduras was boring.

How does MLS stack up to Celtic league, Russian, the rest of CONCACAF?
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:02 pm to
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How does MLS stack up to Celtic league, Russian, the rest of CONCACAF?


On par with the SPL (IMHO).
Not on par with Russia (mainly because of the billions of mafia money going around)
Above CONCACAF (besides Mexican they might be on par)
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:32 pm to
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On par with the SPL (IMHO). Not on par with Russia (mainly because of the billions of mafia money going around) Above CONCACAF (besides Mexican they might be on par)


Well, that's encouraging I guess. Thanks for the response.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:34 pm to
The Mexican league is better because a team like Monterray has about 7 times the budget of an MLS team that spends 5 mil a year on players.

The SPL is a POS one team league in which the average quality of the teams is below MLS level.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:35 pm to
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The SPL is a POS one team league in which the average quality of the teams is below MLS level.



All but a couple MLS clubs would get relegated if they played in the SPFL.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
116079 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:36 pm to
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The SPL is a POS one team league in which the average quality of the teams is below MLS level.


Agreed. You going Saturday?
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19480 posts
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:57 pm to
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What is Klinnsman supposed to do, just leave off Bradley (example) at some point but never give an explanation of why?


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