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X-men DOFP Clarification (SPOILERS)
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:21 pm
OK so I bought it and finally got to watch it. Explain to me a couple of things:
- How was Charles still alive in the future?
- Why/When did he and Eric meet Logan in the airport at the end of Wolverine?
I get that Singer very craftily retconned the events of X3, but I'm confused as to how Charles wasn't dead. And what was the point of the post credits scene at the Airport? Is that just when they got Logan to return to the X-men for the fight against the sentinels?
- How was Charles still alive in the future?
- Why/When did he and Eric meet Logan in the airport at the end of Wolverine?
I get that Singer very craftily retconned the events of X3, but I'm confused as to how Charles wasn't dead. And what was the point of the post credits scene at the Airport? Is that just when they got Logan to return to the X-men for the fight against the sentinels?
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:29 pm to elprez00
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How was Charles still alive in the future?
Ignore X3
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Why/When did he and Eric meet Logan in the airport at the end of Wolverine?
Ignore that too.
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I get that Singer very craftily retconned the events of X3, but I'm confused as to how Charles wasn't dead.
Xavier was dead, in parallel universe X3.
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And what was the point of the post credits scene at the Airport? Is that just when they got Logan to return to the X-men for the fight against the sentinels?
Yeah that was him just returning. None of it makes sense.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:34 pm to elprez00
Ignore Freauxzen. He's wrong. Xavier was alive because at the end of X3 after the credits, Xavier's consciousness is woken in his brother's brain dead body.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:39 pm to The_Joker
I don't think I've seen X3 since I saw it in the theater. I can understand them meeting Logan in the airport. I'm having a hard time figuring out how Xavier was alive to do so.
And the retcon doesn't happen until Mystique doesn't kill the president, so that doesn't explain why Charles isn't dead.
And with Mystique posing as Stryker, does Logan have the adamantium?
And my iOS totally autocorrected to adamantium.
And the retcon doesn't happen until Mystique doesn't kill the president, so that doesn't explain why Charles isn't dead.
And with Mystique posing as Stryker, does Logan have the adamantium?
And my iOS totally autocorrected to adamantium.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:44 pm to Freauxzen
I'm honestly disappointed DOFP is so damn good as a movie because that means Bryan Singer will still have a job.
I hate how he has mystique basically naked and slicked back hair when she looks like this in the comics....
I hate how he has mystique basically naked and slicked back hair when she looks like this in the comics....
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:45 pm to elprez00
The real question you should be asking is how in the hell did Wolverine go from no adamantium claws at the end of The Wolverine to having adamantium claws in the future portion DoFP? I don't see him going through that procedure willingly again
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:06 am to elprez00
The only X-Men movies I've seen and allowed to stay in my memory are First Class and DOFP. Everything else is irrelevant/obsolete/bad.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 12:07 am to kidd49
Personally I thought DFOP was a bad Xmen movie, but a decent movie and Fox/Singer keep making the same movie over and over.
Without knowing the status of Mystique and Erik at the end we don't really know, but what I took from the movie that the events of original trilogy(and The Wolverine) didn't take place...If Mystique separated from Erik (and it looks like she did) than she has some sort of evil plan against Logan? Someone she doesn't even know? In addition to that, why would she wipe his memory, because Logan would remember how to get to Charles, unless she doesn't and poses as Stryker to give Logan motivation to act as killing agent. Charles however would be able to track Logan since they already met.
I could go on and on about the film, but to get to the point, this movie didn't clear up anything, and actually left more questions than answers.
but hey, AoA is going to give us another Charles/Erik/Logan/Mystique story and the other characters will be pushed to the back.which is nice.
Without knowing the status of Mystique and Erik at the end we don't really know, but what I took from the movie that the events of original trilogy(and The Wolverine) didn't take place...If Mystique separated from Erik (and it looks like she did) than she has some sort of evil plan against Logan? Someone she doesn't even know? In addition to that, why would she wipe his memory, because Logan would remember how to get to Charles, unless she doesn't and poses as Stryker to give Logan motivation to act as killing agent. Charles however would be able to track Logan since they already met.
I could go on and on about the film, but to get to the point, this movie didn't clear up anything, and actually left more questions than answers.
but hey, AoA is going to give us another Charles/Erik/Logan/Mystique story and the other characters will be pushed to the back.which is nice.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 7:59 am to kidd49
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The real question you should be asking is how in the hell did Wolverine go from no adamantium claws at the end of The Wolverine to having adamantium claws in the future portion DoFP? I don't see him going through that procedure willingly again
He was hanging out with Magneto in the future time. That'd be a much quicker fix job for Magneto.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:07 am to Sentrius
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I hate how he has mystique basically naked
frick you
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:13 am to RonBurgundy
quote:Only part that made no sense.
Mystique separated from Erik (and it looks like she did) than she has some sort of evil plan against Logan?
quote:She didn't. We are dealing with two different timelines and two different Logans. Future Logan took over the body of past Logan. Neither remembers the experiences of the other.
why would she wipe his memory
quote:They need to move on to some other people. I want an X-Force movie.
Charles/Erik/Logan/Mystique story
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:22 am to The_Joker
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Ignore Freauxzen. He's wrong. Xavier was alive because at the end of X3 after the credits, Xavier's consciousness is woken in his brother's brain dead body.
And then he got back to his own DEAD body how?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:45 am to Freauxzen
He didn't. He is in the new body.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:53 am to lagallifrey
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He didn't. He is in the new body.
Is it possible that he projects his image to make the X-Men and students more comfortable around him? In "reality", he looks like the patient in the coma. But to everybody else, he uses his powers to look like his old self.
I'm totally making this up and I can't explain why he is still in a wheelchair if he got a new body.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:25 am to Esquire
I wouldn't think about it too hard, but I took it as because he is in a body that has literally been brain dead since birth and doesn't function normally. Muscles have never been used before, so he can't just start walking. See: Matrix. He looks like Xavier because he's his twin brother.
The more complete answer of course is because they wanted to pretend like x3 never happened, but the pretense at least is given by the x3 ending.
The more complete answer of course is because they wanted to pretend like x3 never happened, but the pretense at least is given by the x3 ending.
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 9:27 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:36 am to lagallifrey
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He didn't. He is in the new body
Then why can't he walk?
Posted on 10/15/14 at 9:47 am to udtiger
See above. Muscle atrophy would be very severe. Again, this is a plausible explanation, whether it's enough for you is up to you. It's enough for me to get past it and enjoy the movie, especially since it reversed a terrible part of x3.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 10:01 am to Scruffy
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They need to move on to some other people. I want an X-Force movie
I would like to see the Morlocks saga. Get some Wolvie/Sabertooth action going again. And there's also this...
*nerdgasm*
Posted on 10/15/14 at 11:04 am to Freauxzen
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And then he got back to his own DEAD body how?
His brother is his identical twin
Posted on 10/16/14 at 10:15 pm to elprez00
I watched it today and wondered in X-Men origins wolverine didn't Stryker get wolverine and sabertoooth in Vietnam after they survived the firing squad so he would have known who he was in 1973 or was this an alternate reality. 
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