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Appeals Court Reinstates Texas Voter ID Law

Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:07 pm
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:07 pm
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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) – A federal appeals court on Tuesday reinstated Texas’ tough voter ID law for the November election, which the U.S. Justice Department had condemned as the state’s latest means of suppressing minority voter turnout.

The ruling by the New Orleans-based 5th Circuit Court of Appeals temporarily blocks last week’s ruling by U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos in Corpus Christi, who determined the law unconstitutional and similar to a poll tax designed to dissuade minorities from voting.

The 5th Circuit did not rule on the merits of the law; instead, it determined it’s too late to change the rules for the upcoming election. Early voting starts Oct. 20.
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:14 pm to
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U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos in Corpus Christi, who determined the law unconstitutional and similar to a poll tax designed to dissuade minorities from voting.


Well, are they charging for the Voter IDs? Are they hard to obtain? Need anything other than a birth certificate (Certificate of live birth, lol)? Can they be readily obtained?

I really don't know.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:21 pm to
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Registering to vote is easy in Texas. It doesn't even require a stamp! Official applications to register to vote are postage-paid by the State of Texas.

In most Texas counties, the County Tax Assessor-Collector is also the County Voter Registrar. In some counties, the County Clerk or County Elections Administrator registers voters. You may obtain an application from the County Voter Registrar's office, the Secretary of State's Office, libraries, many post offices, or high schools. From our website, you may request that we send you an official, postage-paid application. Or, you may download an informal application, but you will be required to affix a stamp before mailing. You may also register to vote when you apply for or renew your driver's license.

Read the instructions on the form, fill it out and mail it postage-free to the County Voter Registrar, or hand-deliver it to the County Voter Registrar's office.

You must be at least 17 years and 10 months of age on the date you apply. If for any reason you cannot register yourself, with your permission, your spouse, parent or child may fill out and sign an application for you if that person is a registered voter or has applied for voter registration. This person is known as your "agent."

The application must be received in the County Voter Registrar's office or postmarked 30 days before an election in order for you to be eligible to vote in that election. You will receive a voter registration certificate in the mail after the County Voter Registrar has processed your voter registration application. Upon receipt of the voter registration certificate, sign it, fold it and keep in it in your wallet and take it to the polls with you when you vote.

All voters who registered to vote in Texas must provide a Texas driver's license number or personal identification number issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety or the last four digits of your social security number. If you have not been issued any of these numbers, then you must state that fact on the application by checking the designated box.


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A voter who has not been issued a driver’s license or social security number may register to vote, but such voter must submit proof of identification when presenting himself/herself for voting or with his/her mail-in ballots, if voting by mail. These voters’ names are flagged on the official voter registration list with the annotation of “ID.” The “ID” notation instructs the poll worker to request a proper form of identification from these voters when they present themselves for voting, unless they are a voter with a permanent exemption on the voter registration certificate. The voter must present one of the seven (7) acceptable forms of identification:

Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph
United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph
United States passport
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:28 pm to
Meh, seems OK to me. I can't remember if I need to or if I just show my Driver's License out of habit.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27304 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:56 pm to
I don't understand the liberal argument against voter IDs.

I mean, don't they say that registering a firearm and background checks, and banning certain weapons is perfectly fine because the 2nd amendment doesn't mean they can't place restrictions?

Even freedom of speech has a limit... (you can't yell fire, etc).

So why are they so against showing an ID? I mean, it seems completely necessary to prove that you are the person you say you are when voting.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32089 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:57 pm to
The argument against voter ID is pure dishonesty.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90479 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:25 pm to
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So why are they so against showing an ID?


Because they know voter fraud happens and that it is largely in their favor. The "suppressing minorities" thing is BS. It "suppresses" them in the fact that it means they can vote only once and not numerous times or vote for dead relatives.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:59 pm to
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Because they know voter fraud happens and that it is largely in their favor. The "suppressing minorities" thing is BS. It "suppresses" them in the fact that it means they can vote only once and not numerous times or vote for dead relatives. 

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner folks!
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:03 pm to
I still remember the first time I voted and was in absolute shock that they didn't ask me for an ID. I actually brought two forms to be safe the first time.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:06 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:07 pm to
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U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos in Corpus Christi, who determined the law unconstitutional and similar to a poll tax designed to dissuade minorities from voting. 


How did this dumb count become a district judge?
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:10 pm to
Her name might tell you as much.

But I shouldn't make assumptions, I guess.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:17 pm to
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The voter must present one of the seven (7) acceptable forms of identification:

Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS)
Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS
Texas personal identification card issued by DPS
Texas concealed handgun license issued by DPS
United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph
United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph
United States passport

Notice that one form of ID that's not included on this list is student ID's for public colleges and universities. What could possibly be the motivation of folks who don't want college students to vote but do want gun owners to vote?
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:18 pm to
Are student IDs issued by the state or federal government? I guess being a public school they are. If they open that door then I assume teacher IDs also along with high school IDs should be allowed. Are those controlled as strongly as other forms of ID?

Plus not all kids go to school in their state. But as long as they register properly then maybe it is a mute point.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:19 pm to
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What could possibly be the motivation of folks who don't want college students to vote but do want gun owners to vote?



Oh, I don't know…maybe because many college kids are from out of state?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164014 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:19 pm to
College IDs don't have your address on them and even public school IDs aren't controlled solely by the government. It was a good try, though.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 11:24 pm
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:23 pm to
Uh do you not see that those are the photo IDs given by DPS? Then the others are Federal.

Concealed handgun license issued by DPS. College IDs are not. That satisfy you, Lefty McHack?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:28 pm to
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Oh, I don't know…maybe because many college kids are from out of state?

What does that have to do with anything? When I attended school out of state, I voted in the state I was living, I didn't come back home to vote, and that's the way most college students do it, including those at the service academies.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68030 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 11:36 pm to
Because college id's are given willy nilly. They are not a form of state id. Let the morons get a state id, it's really not that difficult, except , apparently, for democrats.
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