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Who should this fix fall on

Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:14 pm
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:14 pm
My house is a little over a year old, I did not build myself. There is a drain in my backyard and the dirt around it is starting to erode and cave in, causing a hole. I figured the state should fix it and they said it is the builders responsibility to fix it. Now the builder is saying talk to the HOA. We just started our HOA and doubt they will be willing to fix it. What actions should I take to get this fix before my yard keeps caving in?
Posted by redbullwings
Member since Aug 2013
863 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:22 pm to
how big is the hole?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:22 pm to
Where in the backyard?
Posted by zx24
Member since May 2014
462 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:23 pm to
If it within your property line, it is your responsibility. The HOA is their to uphold the covenants of the neighborhood. The only time they will be held responsible is if the cause of the hole is something they did. You will have to prove that the builder did something wrong with the build to cause the drainage issue to hold them responsible.

I'm not sure what you mean by drain and the dirt surrounding it, but if it is an issue with underground drains put in by the parish, then you may get them to help you out.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61590 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:24 pm to
It won't be the HOA
Posted by redbullwings
Member since Aug 2013
863 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:25 pm to
Honestly, if it's not that large of a hole and nobody claims responsibility, this seems like a weekend project that wouldn't cost you much.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166077 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:25 pm to
pics or delete thread
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:29 pm to
Well you missed the 1 year window to force builder to do it.

Get a shovel, some sand and filter fabric and start digging.

I doubt the HOA will deal with it since they just started and are probably broke. You can always try though.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30854 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Well you missed the 1 year window to force builder to do it.

Get a shovel, some sand and filter fabric and start digging.

I doubt the HOA will deal with it since they just started and are probably broke. You can always try though.


This^
Posted by TigerSaint1
Member since Apr 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:53 pm to
Not a weekend project. I already dumped about 10 5 gallon buckets of sand and can't even see the bottom of the hole. It's a catch basin that goes about ten feet down and on the outer edge of the outside perimeter theres a hole appears to go all the way down to bottom of catch basin. So what I'm thinking is there's another pipe that runs into that drain that may have a crack and the dirt is falling in and washing away. So there's no point to keep adding material that's just going to wash away.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80864 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:54 pm to
Flashlight and camera, post the pics
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6839 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:14 pm to
quote:

Flashlight and camera, post the pics
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5169 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:18 pm to
Who owns the drain? I have a storm sewer drain in an easement/ROW/whatever the hell Louisiana calls it. The earth around it had eroded similar to what you are describing. DPW wont touch it until it starts endagering my property and even then Ill probably have to get a lawyer.

I had some concrete spoil from digging up old fence posts. I crushed it into large bloxks with ye ole sledge hammer. I threw in some rabbit fencing into the hold and then I filled the void with the crushed concrete and then added maybe $30 of gravel. Its been over a year and no more erosion.

If the dirt and clay around the drain is washing away, adding sand will surely wash away too.
Posted by Tbooux
Member since Oct 2011
1680 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:37 pm to
back in a concrete truck and fill hole with flow fill 8" from top of grade, then top with topsoil. Problem solved.
Posted by Flanders
Bham
Member since May 2008
9842 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:07 pm to
two to three square yards of sand should do you up good. do not waste time with five gallon buckets.

take the one hour to fill up the bed of your truck and shovel it in the hole.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17664 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:19 pm to
call you city or parish engineering dept not the state see what they say, who did the original work? the developer I bet they should be responsible.

get a mini excacator and a guy out there prob less than a grand and a days work, it will be less of a pain with the exception of the 1000.00 that hurts.

what would happen if you filled it in? where will the runoff go?
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
26256 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

dirt is falling in and washing away

This is what I'd think also. Not sure who the problem would belong to, but I'd think the city or more than likely the developer if there was one.
Posted by hardhead
stinky bayou
Member since Jun 2009
5745 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:16 pm to
Put a feeder next to it then go brag to nascar
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:31 pm to
So there is definitely a crack between the catch basin and the pipe.

I will bet the contractor just shoved the pipe in there and did not use any no-shrink grout.

So if it was my yard I would dig it out, make backing of foam around the culvert/catch basin joint. Mix and pack it with no-shrink grout. Then throw down some filter fabric just in case, backfill with sand, last 6" top soil.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5525 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:36 pm to
Tell the builder to come fix his shitty install. Even though you are outside your warranty it sounds like it was a poor installation.

In your yard HOA has zero responsibilit .
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