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Are we heading towards another 2008 type downturn?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:41 pm
My 401k is down over 13% year to date. Any advice on how to reallocate my portfolio? Or should I just sit back and relax?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:42 pm to AnonymousTiger
quote:
sit back and relax
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:47 pm to AnonymousTiger
Gah damn, you invest 100% in world funds?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:51 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Actually, I am very heavy in international stocks. I'm set up as pretty aggressive now, and it was working up until a couple months ago. Took a dramatic hit to say the least.
Here is my current allocation:
Cash
1%
Bonds
11%
Large-cap stocks
35%
Mid/small-cap stocks
17%
International stocks
36%
Here is my current allocation:
Cash
1%
Bonds
11%
Large-cap stocks
35%
Mid/small-cap stocks
17%
International stocks
36%
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:52 pm to AnonymousTiger
I worry about declining oil prices, but I'm hoping that such declining prices will spur increased demand, keeping prices from falling too far.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:55 pm to AnonymousTiger
Keep dumping money in all of them. Up it if you can. We could only be so lucky as to see 2009 again
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:58 pm to OnTheBrink
quote:
Any advice on how to reallocate my portfolio? Or should I just sit back and relax?
I had a meeting with my Advisor this morning...im down 9%. He said not to worry. He has never steered me wrong before so im sticking with that.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 4:10 pm to Coach Guidry
Let me know if he changes his mind.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 5:08 pm to AnonymousTiger
quote:
Mid/small-cap stocks 17% International stocks 36%
If you are going to be aggressive, you gotta have the stomach to let it ride. Otherwise, you fall in the trap of buying the highs and selling the lows. Which is why most investors trail the index funds.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:11 pm to AnonymousTiger
quote:Being 'very heavy' in international stocks is NOT being 'pretty aggressive.'
Actually, I am very heavy in international stocks. I'm set up as pretty aggressive now,
It's called being 'pretty unwise.'
If you want international exposure, buy KO (Coca Cola) or MCD (McDonalds) or APPL (Apple Computer) or any other large, international American company.
A big chunk of their earnings comes from international markets and you don't have to take the currency exchange and political risks that you face with international funds.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:37 pm to AnonymousTiger
I'm hoping for a good slide so I can buy in cheaper and unload some PMs
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:33 pm to AnonymousTiger
How the hell is anyone down for the year?
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:35 pm to AndyJ
I'm down for the quarter but still up 4% for the year.
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:58 pm to Golfer
Let it wait two years so I can have more money to invest
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:20 pm to AndyJ
I'd been up 6-8% most of the year but looked yesterday and I was down 5%. I need to reevaluate.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 6:56 am to AnonymousTiger
* EXTREMELY little chance of 2008 type downturn.
-the economy was over leveraged very badly and an adjustment had to happen
- a spike in commodity prices (food & fuel) reduced reduced household income dramatically causing default on excess debt
- nothing like the above is going on now, just a normal stock market 'correction'
* stay 100% invested always and you'll beat the market
* virtually everyone would agree you're far too heavy in international and should reallocate. also, I don't know how old you are, but if under 55, you should have nothing in bonds which are overall a bad investment and terrible now due to low rates and inevitability of rate increases which will cause you to lose principal value
most experienced investors who don't have a conflict of interest would STRONGLY suggest you get in a full market ETF and forget about it. you'll beat 70-90% of professional money managers over the long haul.
VSTMX: vanguard total market is an excellent choice with bare minimum expenses and complete diversification.
-the economy was over leveraged very badly and an adjustment had to happen
- a spike in commodity prices (food & fuel) reduced reduced household income dramatically causing default on excess debt
- nothing like the above is going on now, just a normal stock market 'correction'
* stay 100% invested always and you'll beat the market
* virtually everyone would agree you're far too heavy in international and should reallocate. also, I don't know how old you are, but if under 55, you should have nothing in bonds which are overall a bad investment and terrible now due to low rates and inevitability of rate increases which will cause you to lose principal value
most experienced investors who don't have a conflict of interest would STRONGLY suggest you get in a full market ETF and forget about it. you'll beat 70-90% of professional money managers over the long haul.
VSTMX: vanguard total market is an excellent choice with bare minimum expenses and complete diversification.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:18 am to Ole War Skule
quote:
* virtually everyone would agree you're far too heavy in international and should reallocate
false, I like the allocation towards international. As long as he's not within a 5 yr window till retirement.
quote:
most experienced investors who don't have a conflict of interest would STRONGLY suggest you get in a full market ETF and forget about it. you'll beat 70-90% of professional money managers over the long haul
Also, false. As argued before and it's amazing how you STRONGLY suggest this given the fact that your not licensed at all (at least I hope not). Also, he's referring to his 401k which I seriously doubt has the ability to invest in ETF's.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:37 am to Shepherd88
quote:
false, I like the allocation towards international. As long as he's not within a 5 yr window till retirement.
I hope you're not licensed
International is extremely risky and 36% is far too much for 401k by any measure I've seen. Commodity, dollar, and political risks are extreme in international markets, ESPECIALLY to an inexperienced investor.
quote:
Also, false. As argued before and it's amazing how you STRONGLY suggest this given the fact that your not licensed at all (at least I hope not). Also, he's referring to his 401k which I seriously doubt has the ability to invest in ETF's.
are you a licensed broker or advisor? if yes, what fees do you get for advising him to put 36% in international
btw, which part is false? please be specific and provide factual data.
one of many links showing how expensive bad advise is
Virtually every unbiased (not commission paid) will advise small or inexperienced investors to put their money in a broad market etf or LOW COST broad based mutual fund (if etf's are not available) and forget it. Paying someone a 1% (or other) management fee to find investments that charge even more fees gets beat by the market in 90%+ cases. It's a fact, not my opinion.
I can provide a thousand links with that view, how about you post links to unbiased advisers who advise paying management fees or buying expensive mutual funds to get lower returns (which they do over the long term).
I you've got the facts, post 'em....I already have many times.
and yes, I am amazing...thanks
This post was edited on 10/15/14 at 8:47 am
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:40 am to Golfer
quote:
I'm down for the quarter but still up 4% for the year.
That's exactly where my 401k is.
Posted on 10/15/14 at 8:43 am to AnonymousTiger
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