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Advice for crate training adult dog

Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:11 am
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:11 am
Our yellow lab is about 10 years old and has always had a separation anxiety issue, specifically with my husband (the ball thrower). On random days, she scratches and eats the wall when he is gone. Some of the holes in the walls have been small and some have been big enough to use as another entrance/exit. She doesn't focus on one wall in particular. She spreads the wealth and has scratched or eaten walls all over the house.

We have blocked off the upstairs. She is on Prozac. We have changed her Prozac dosage many times with our vet but it is either too much for her and makes her sick or the current dosage basically has no effect because she still does this. Previously, we tried the thunder shirt--fail. We tried some plug in pheromone crap the vet sold to is--fail.

She gets plenty of exercise. My husbands walks her and throws the ball to her twice a day.

We are not getting another dog.

We don't know what else to do except crate her but I wanted to see if anyone had any good tips for crate training an adult dog. We have the crate and it is plenty big enough. She doesn't do bones or toys. She's just never been interested in them before.


Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:12 am to
have you had the dog for ~10 years?
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:14 am to
Sounds like she likes the outdoors so how about a decent sized pen? Like 20x10 or so.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:14 am to
One tip I got when I started with my dog was to start feeding them in the crate, to get them used to being in there. Start with shorter periods of time, like running an errand, and work up to a full day.

Our two dogs are fine now being left out, but when we do crate them they run in as soon as one of us shakes the box of treats.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:15 am to
Leave her outside.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:15 am to
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Leave her outside.
DONT DO THIS
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

have you had the dog for ~10 years?


She was adopted by family member from humane society when she was 1-2. We took her in (and the family member) a year after that after Katrina. We ended up keeping her because she is in love with my husband.

Left her outside in our small courtyard one day. She are the fence, scratched the door, and dug two holes in what little grass is in our courtyard. She's not normally a digger.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:23 am to
quote:

Leave her outside.
Wont help (except for the eating the walls part). He'll eat the garden and dig up the yard.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:26 am to
prob want to slowly crate train

get a crate, put things she likes in it

if/when she goes in on her own, give her tons of treats and love

put her in for 20 minutes here or there and leave the house. DONT make a big deal about putting her in or taking her out. Put her in, leave, come home, open crate

Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:27 am to
Step 1 grab dog by the back of the head

Step 2 point dogs eyes at the hole In the wall

Step 3 proceed to kick dog through the hole while saying NO or until dog goes upside down.

Step 4 repeat at every hole.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 7:28 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123903 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:29 am to
I if you put your dog in a crate it's like a little jail.

Cops put people in jail.


Vis-à-vis if you crate your dog will become a cop and kill it.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16403 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:29 am to
I have two labs (a 12 year old yellow and 6 year old black). Both have always been allowed to run around the house until the last person was leaving, then they were put in their crates.....very large ones. We've had no issues with them going in the crates, just tell them kennel up and in they go. We now let the old boy just stay out, he's losing his eyesight and depth perception. He spends his days just laying on his mat by the front door and still sleeps in my son's room at night (just next to the bed and not in his crate).
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:31 am to
Thanks! Is it better to put crate by a window where she can see out or corner of bedroom where she sleeps?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:32 am to
putting her by a window MAY cause her to bark if she sees an animal or person outside and she could work herself up
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7579 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:32 am to
quote:

One tip I got when I started with my dog was to start feeding them in the crate, to get them used to being in there. Start with shorter periods of time, like running an errand, and work up to a full day.

This
She needs to feel comfortable in the crate and never use it as a punishment tool. When I was training my dog, we would play in and around the crate also.
Like LSUBoo said, start small and lead up to a full day. This WILL take time for her to adapt so be patient and dont use the crate as punishment.
Good luck.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:34 am to
yea

associate happiness and safety with the crate, you want her to naturally want to be in it


punishing isn't really a good idea for dogs anyway. 99% of the time, they don't know what they did wrong
Posted by CorkSoaker
Member since Oct 2008
9784 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:35 am to
What crate do you use? Can you post a pic or link please?
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7579 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Is it better to put crate by a window where she can see out or corner of bedroom where she sleeps?

Place a blanket or crate cover over it so they cant see out except the door. She will get a since of security this way.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:38 am to
quote:

punishing isn't really a good idea for dogs anyway. 99% of the time, they don't know what they did wrong


Yeah, unless you catch them in the act it's pretty pointless.
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:48 am to
I can't give you any other advice than what's been said. I don't understand why a ten year old dog is tearing stuff up. I have two labs. They're 3 and 4 and hardly ever mess anything up, it's usually from the wag of the tail when they do.
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