Pew Poll from the Maher/Affleck

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while I agree with Afflecks sentiment that casting a broad stroke is wrong

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The problem is that neither Maher nor Harris were doing that, but Affleck just acted like an 8 year old idiot who could only argue by shouting down the other two. He was way out of his league, especially with Harris.

I don't think it's just an Islam issue. It goes a little deeper than that. It's cultural. A developed, useful and liberal culture can maintain it's religion and beliefs. In the case of Christianity and Judaism, they've evolved along with their societies while maintaining their core moral views.

Muslims haven't, because their culture hasn't evolved. Every culture seeks to advance. When you fail at electricity, at infrastructure, at education, at science, at art, at music, at everything the rest of the world values, you still have a strong desire to advance. So you advance in the easier ways, by fighting and overpowering. This causes another problem. In the early days of Islam, Muslims could successfully fight with nearly anyone and in most cases win. They can't now. Their lack of development has forced them out of even a military advancement. They simply don't have the weapons, the science or the infrastructure to do now what their ancestors did. What could be done on horseback and with swords now requires satellites, rockets, missiles, planes, bombs, artillery, ships, submarines, nuclear weapons and the internet.

So now they're forced into what amounts to a cycle. Abject failure on every meaningful front brings forth extremism and a desperate attempt to succeed at something. Namely, jihad. But they can't even succeed at that anymore. And that brings out more extremism.

It's not just that Islam isn't working, it's that nothing there is, and Islam is the vehicle they use to act out. It's a useless culture with no sign of reform.

All that said, it's their useless culture. Not ours. We don't need to stop it or try to fix it unless and until it begins to threaten us. I'm not convinced, right now, that it does.

#FTnottrolling

Islam has maintained its core moral views because it never had moral views. Their idea of converting non-believers was by holding a sword to their necks and shouting "covert or die!"

Islam is not a religion. Islam is a disease.

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Islam has maintained its core moral views because it never had moral views.

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Of course they have moral views. They just have a remarkable number of terrible ones.

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Their idea of converting non-believers was by holding a sword to their necks and shouting "covert or die!"

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Um... Yes? Not sure why you're telling me that.

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Islam is not a religion. Islam is a disease.

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I wouldn't go that far. In the Middle East and Africa, yes, but it's mostly harmless elsewhere.

Mostly.

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Islam is a disease.

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Sort of OT, but have you seen the HBO doc on the Westgate Mall attack? I just watched it last night. Thoroughly disturbing.

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He was way out of his league, especially with Harris.

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He really was. I don't know if I would have had the restraint that Sam showed. Affleck should reserve his opinion for less informed individuals to rally behind in their ignorance.

Ok, so why are Christians, living side-by-side with Muslims in the same uncivilized cultures, dealing with the same poverty in the Middle East and Africa, not violent?

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Most of the folks that I know who purport to be Christians, spout the New Testament, but they live their lives by the Old Testament.

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These Christians you know are stoning their rebellious sons, and killing their daughters for lying about virginity? Really?

It is Muslims doing the stonings and honor killings. Not Christians.

The numbers for Egypt are disturbing. Which was exactly Maher's point.

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Most of the folks that I know who purport to be Christians, spout the New Testament, but they live their lives by the Old Testament. The Amish live their lives by the New Testament

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Most of the people you know have mid wives/cocubines? And the fricking Amish in a thread about Muslims? Full retard. Is Jebodah running around with a slingshot telling Muslims convert or die?

Truth is your gay loving tolerant progressive Muslim buddies are the minority by a landslide, and most Muslims would justify chopping their heads off before yours.