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Intersting Pattern: Every Six Years, Down. Every Four Years, BCSNCG

Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:21 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50205 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:21 am
I've picked up on a somewhat interesting pattern with LSU football that started in 2002....

2002, The Rant's Lord and Savior, Nick Saban, fresh off of an outstanding 2001 campaign where LSU won the SECCG and went on to win the Sugar Bowl (thanks in large part to a schedule shuffling due to a national tragedy) saw his 2002 team go 8-5. It was an ugly year too, with a roster chock full of NFL talent.

Ugly losses at VaTech, Auburn, (just to name two) coupled with the loss of a QB that was left in a blowout game much too long resulted in a 5-loss season.

The next year, LSU went to it's first BCSNCG where the Lord and Savior, Nick Saban, had to split his only title at LSU with a media darling that didn't play in the game.

Fast forward 11 years later, and this pattern is holding firm.

Every six years, LSU struggles mightily. See 2008 and now, 2014.

Every four years, however, LSU is in the BCSNCG. See 2007 and 2011.

Should this pattern hold true, what does that bring us in 2015? A playoff appearance...

Interesting, but EZE Tiger Fan, you are a sunshine pumper if you think this program can turn it around in the SECW that fast.

Well, in 2012 Auburn was the shits, and went to the BCSNCG in 2013. Why can't LSU do it too?

Be patient folks. Don't abandon the program. See the pattern and deal with it accordingly.

"But EZE, the Lord and Savior, Nick Saban, NEVER struggles at Bama".

Well, Rantards, the Lord and Savior has had #1 classes four years in a row (LSU has averaged anywhere between 2-10 in that time) and he still loses his biggest games every year, many at home, while sporting the easiest SEC schedule. Not to mention extreme bias in officiating that his program benefits from.

Face it, LSU doesn't have the luxury of losing 20 players to the NFL and replacing them all with well-paid five star athletes. Perhaps Miles' problem is he's developing his stars too fast. I don't know. Either way, look forward to a big 2015 based on the pattern.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:22 am to
Dammit I hate when people are reasonable on here
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:23 am to
For the last time, these are not trends or bona fide patterns. It's fricking coincidence.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:25 am to
This is the very definition of trying to hard
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50205 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:25 am to
quote:

For the last time, these are not trends or bona fide patterns.


Excellent point, considering each has happened three times now...

Like clockwork....

Tell you what: If we aren't in the playoff next year, I'll believe you.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

If we aren't in the playoff next year, I'll believe you.


Get ready to believe.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:28 am to
Any two points are co-linear
Any three points are co-planar
It's not a pattern unless it repeats at least 3 times.
I will believe this pattern if we go to the title game next year.
Posted by BCS Statmaster
Member since Jan 2007
1552 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:28 am to
Setting up for a justifiable and trended loss to Florida?
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Nick Saban, fresh off of an outstanding 2001 campaign where LSU won the SECCG and went on to win the Sugar Bowl (


Miles doesn't coach in a sec west where 3 losses can win west. 2001 sec champ was a 3 loss team
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Well, in 2012 Auburn was the shits, and went to the BCSNCG in 2013. Why can't LSU do it too?


are you asking for a coaching change here?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50205 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:30 am to
quote:

I will believe this pattern if we go to the title game next year.


Gotcha.

So it has to happen a fourth time..

2015 playoff, 2020 suckage
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38116 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:31 am to
NO!!! National Championship erry year!!!!
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50205 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

Miles doesn't coach in a sec west where 3 losses can win west. 2001 sec champ was a 3 loss team


This is false.

Everyone knows the Lord and Savior, Nick Saban, would NEVER lose three games in a season. Or five. Or ever lose to ULM or UAB.

(end sarcasm)
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:35 am to
I swear I think some of yall get paid to post here.
Posted by BBJ
BR
Member since Apr 2012
1365 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:35 am to
2002

If Matt Mauck doesn't get hurt. Lsu would of either been to bcs bowl or NCG
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Gotcha.

So it has to happen a fourth time..

2015 playoff, 2020 suckage


The pattern must repeat three times, not occur three times, so yes.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28349 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:40 am to
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Well, in 2012 Auburn was the shits, and went to the BCSNCG in 2013.

Their head coach also got fired.
Posted by cheo25
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
984 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:42 am to
quote:

"But EZE, the Lord and Savior, Nick Saban, NEVER struggles at Bama". Well, Rantards, the Lord and Savior has had #1 classes four years in a row (LSU has averaged anywhere between 2-10 in that time) and he still loses his biggest games every year, many at home, while sporting the easiest SEC schedule. Not to mention extreme bias in officiating that his program benefits from.


Saban: Three of the last five national titles. Three of the last five SEC titles. Four BCS games in the last five seasons.

Miles: None of the last five national titles. One of the last five SEC titles. One BCS game in the last five seasons.

You want to point out some trends (that are probably just eerie coincidences) that might paint a positive light on next season, I have no problem with that. But don't be stupid about what Saban has accomplished at Alabama. Hell, this season isn't over. If Bama runs the table, (which could happen considering their three biggest remaining games are at home) and wins the SEC title, it's in the College Football Playoff.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4304 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:42 am to
...or win 4 NC's in 9 years at 2 different schools. You hand pick the bad in Saban (ie UAB,ULM) just as you hand pick the good in Miles. You fricks completely overlook the opposite in both. Pumpers
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89462 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:43 am to
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2002 team go 8-5. It was an ugly year too, with a roster chock full of NFL talent.

Ugly losses at VaTech, Auburn, (just to name two) coupled with the loss of a QB that was left in a blowout game much too long resulted in a 5-loss season.


In the first 3 losses, LSU was outscored 88-15, for an average score of 29-5. And recall, 2002 was a literal fricking (Bluegrass) miracle away from being 7-6.

About the only glaring differences between the season (I still think 2014 looks more like 2008, but maybe I'm the only one) I can see is that we won the opener this time, whereas we dropped the VA Tech game back in 2002, and the 2002 team had an impressive win against #16 Florida in the Swamp - and 2014 doesn't really have that kind of win yet. The 2014 defense has looked awful in conference play - one of the worst defenses I can remember - worse than the 2008 team looked in conference play.

That bad. But, then again, the 2002 Bama game was the worst LSU game I ever watched in person.
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