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Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:12 am to JasonMason
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What I thought was interesting was that Thawne said he had to speed up the invention of the particle accelerator. So does this mean by creating it years earlier and Barry becoming the flash earlier that all these metahumans were a result of Thawne changing the time line? Sort of like how we saw the consequences of Barry altering the time line.
I was thinking that Wells and his lady friend built it and it blew up (just like it did in this timeline) in the previous timeline, just at a later date. So all of the metahumans were still created in the previous timeline, just at a later date.
I think that Thawne's insistence on speeding up the explosion is sole because he wants to get back to his time as soon as possible.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:15 am to ProjectP2294
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He claimed the paralysis after the explosion, not the car wreck.
I must've missed that.
But still, he would've had to either alter the x-rays or bribe the doctors even if it happened after the explosion. Now I'm not saying he couldn't have done either of those things. He definitely had the means to do it. I'm just curious if they will ever touch on how he was able to trick everyone into believing he's actually paralysed.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:17 am to ProjectP2294
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He claimed the paralysis after the explosion, not the car wreck.
I missed that as well. I do, however, stand by my theory.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:22 am to SSpaniel
Your theory could be right for all we know.
It just seems to me that it would be pretty difficult for some who is as "in the public eye" like Wells is, to pull off being paralysed without some report or paparazzi digging into that aspect of his life.
It just seems to me that it would be pretty difficult for some who is as "in the public eye" like Wells is, to pull off being paralysed without some report or paparazzi digging into that aspect of his life.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:23 am to SSpaniel
How does Thawne know to name the particle accelerator STAR Labs? That name was only said between Wells and Tess - both of whom are dead as far as we know.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:27 am to Chris4x4gill2
In his time they must have named it STAR Labs.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:37 am to Kayhill Brown
Keep in mind that in Thawne's original history, Tess and Wells created the particle accelerator and the Flash, only a few years later than in the current TV history. Thawne knows everything that Wells did in those two decades leading up to the creation of the Flash, so he can base his impersonation of Wells on what the real Wells was doing in that time period.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:57 am to Fewer Kilometers
I just found this post. There's some good, slightly spoilerish, insight on some of the things y'all have been discussing here lately.
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Given what we saw with Harrison Wells and Eobard Thawne, is there any part of Harrison that’s buried under there, or was he completely wiped?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 11:46 am to Kayhill Brown
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In his time they must have named it STAR Labs.
I thought of this shortly after I posted
Time travel makes things hard to keep straight.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:03 pm to Fewer Kilometers
I agree. Also Thawne knows how the accelerator was created so he basically knows how long it will take him to "recreate" it. He also knows why it originally failed so he can design to fail in this timeline. The key for Thawne is to keep up the Wells persona for as long as he needs to get to his desired outcome.
Question about Grodd. It doesn't seem like he has anything to do with the particle accelerator explosion but Thawne knows about him I guessing bc of his general knowledge of the time period. Is this the thought?
Question about Grodd. It doesn't seem like he has anything to do with the particle accelerator explosion but Thawne knows about him I guessing bc of his general knowledge of the time period. Is this the thought?
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Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:22 pm to STEVED00
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Question about Grodd. It doesn't seem like he has anything to do with the particle accelerator explosion but Thawne knows about him I guessing bc of his general knowledge of the time period. Is this the thought?
In one of the earlier episodes it showed Wells working with General Eiling doing some experiments on Grodd. In the flashback, Wells was not pleased with how Eiling was experimenting on Grodd if I remember correctly.
Also keep in mind that Thawne has probably been aligned with Grodd at different times in the future during the original timeline.
Here is a link to a clip from the episode that I'm referring to: LINK
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:33 pm to Bamatab
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seems like a plothole to me
Another thing................
Didn't Joe say in an earlier episode he had investigated Well's past and couldn't find anything on him prior to 15 years ago?? So now we see that yes, Harrison Wells did exist prior to 15 years ago. And was even in a fatal car wreck that I would think have been easy to dig up old newspaper articles on.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:17 pm to Darkknight
Maybe Joe just kind of sucks as a detective?
Although, Thawne could have wiped Wells' past to a degree. But it is weird that they couldn't find anything.
Although, Thawne could have wiped Wells' past to a degree. But it is weird that they couldn't find anything.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:17 pm to Bamatab
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In one of the earlier episodes it showed Wells working with General Eiling doing some experiments on Grodd. In the flashback, Wells was not pleased with how Eiling was experimenting on Grodd if I remember correctly.
Also keep in mind that Thawne has probably been aligned with Grodd at different times in the future during the original timeline.
I guess that could have been the real Wells though.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:28 pm to STEVED00
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I guess that could have been the real Wells though.
If you go back and watch the clip that I linked, I think it is pretty obvious it is Thawne. His line of "I have a whole different future in mind for you" seems to be a pretty obvious hint that it is Thawne.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:13 pm to Bamatab
Just watched and definitely agree.
Still curious how Thawne assumed Wells' "likeness". It definitely seemed like real Wells "drained" of his likeness so it could be assumed by Thswne. I am guessing the will explain that device in a future episode. That being said, I guess Thawne can change into whoever he wants.
Still curious how Thawne assumed Wells' "likeness". It definitely seemed like real Wells "drained" of his likeness so it could be assumed by Thswne. I am guessing the will explain that device in a future episode. That being said, I guess Thawne can change into whoever he wants.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:38 pm to Bamatab
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I thought Hamill nailed it all the way around in the episode. And yeah, I thought that was a nice easter egg line.
I thought he sounded like his Joker character from the animated series and batman games. I don't know much about the comics, but the Trickster came across as a cheap gimmic to throw a joker-esque character into the mix.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:50 pm to finchmeister08
Hamill was also the voice of The Trickster on the animated tv shows.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:53 pm to finchmeister08
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I thought he sounded like his Joker character from the animated series and batman games. I don't know much about the comics, but the Trickster came across as a cheap gimmic to throw a joker-esque character into the mix.
This was actually the third time Hamill played Trickster. First was on the old TV show, then he voiced this version for Justice League.
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