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Why couldn't Rich Rod win at Michigan?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:41 pm
It makes no sense to me. He was very successful at West Virginia and in his third year at Arizona, he is building a program that could win the conference already.
What was different at Michigan?
What was different at Michigan?
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Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:41 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Easy. He wasn't a "Michigan Man".
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Talent on the defensive side of the ball was largely lacking, and the few good defensive players they had under him were mostly Lloyd Carr recruits.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:42 pm to wallowinit
Well that's the best explanation. 
I don't remember his recruiting classes there so maybe that had something to do with it. Then again, I don't remember ever being very good at recruiting.
I don't remember his recruiting classes there so maybe that had something to do with it. Then again, I don't remember ever being very good at recruiting.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:43 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Why couldn't Rich Rod win at Michigan?
Cause his players didn't care about the minute details. They wouldn't even tie their own shoelaces!!
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
He couldn't get past his 3-3-6 (if I recall correctly) in the big ten.
He got run all over and they couldn't stop the pass with 6 DBs. He is a much better fit for the PAC-12.
He got run all over and they couldn't stop the pass with 6 DBs. He is a much better fit for the PAC-12.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Well you can say recruiting rankings but the lack of "buy-in" by the administration that hired him didn't help in wins or recruiting
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:45 pm to Henry Jones Jr
His defenses were historically bad
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:46 pm to Henry Jones Jr
He had holdovers that weren't fit for his system, and then one of them turned him for practice time violations when he made them practice more than the allotted time, just like every other school in the country.
ETA: I don't remember if he tried the 3-3-5 at Mich, but if he did, he shouldn't have.
ETA: I don't remember if he tried the 3-3-5 at Mich, but if he did, he shouldn't have.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:46 pm to c on z
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Talent on the defensive side of the ball was largely lacking, and the few good defensive players they had under him were mostly Lloyd Carr recruits.
He actually recruited a few great defensive players but none of them could get admitted.
His time at Michigan was pretty crazy. Dude would go 6-0 to start the season and then goose egg the back end of the schedule.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:48 pm to KosmoCramer
He had 3 seasons at Michigan, which is about the absolute minimum necessary for a complete stylistic retooling of a system. It didn't help that he was breaking rules, trying to get it done.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:48 pm to BoardReader
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It didn't help that he was breaking rules
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:49 pm to KosmoCramer
3-3-5, sorry. I'm Dumb
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:51 pm to ProjectP2294
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one of them turned him for practice time violations when he made them practice more than the allotted time,
Michigan union mentality
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:52 pm to KosmoCramer
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He couldn't get past his 3-3-6
Well no wonder he lost so many games. He kept getting penalties called on him for too many men on the field
ETA: You corrected yourself.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:53 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Why couldn't Rich Rod win at Michigan?
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win at Michigan?
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Michigan
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:54 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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What was different at Michigan?
1. casteel didnt' go with him, so his D sucked
2. many "Michigan Men" sabotaged him
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:56 pm to SlowFlowPro
Curse of WV, aka I wished him to lose every game he coached there.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:56 pm to Henry Jones Jr
The athletes that were at UM were a different style that didn't match what offense he wanted to run. Zona had players already in place to make his system work...
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:56 pm to Fun Bunch
It's Michigan.
No recruit top recruit would pass up the opportunity to get warm weather and hot girls in the south if they had the chance.
No recruit top recruit would pass up the opportunity to get warm weather and hot girls in the south if they had the chance.
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