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When did our "road woes" begin?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:08 pm
Thinking back to last year, it was definitely before the first Seattle thrashing.
If I had to take a guess I believe it was the Jets game last year. That was just awful to watch all the way around.
If I had to take a guess I believe it was the Jets game last year. That was just awful to watch all the way around.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:09 pm to JS87
I think it began the year after the super bowl!
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:14 pm to JS87
Our road game records in the Payton/Brees era:
06- 6-2
07- 4-4
08- 2-6
09- 7-1
10- 6-2
11- 5-3
12- 3-5*
13- 3-5
14- 0-3
06- 6-2
07- 4-4
08- 2-6
09- 7-1
10- 6-2
11- 5-3
12- 3-5*
13- 3-5
14- 0-3
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:19 pm to JS87
2011. Bad losses to the Bucs and Rams. Struggled against the Titans and even the Jags. Needed a game winning drive vs the Panthers.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:25 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
Yeah, 2011 was when it was most obvious. We were the best damn team in the world at home but struggled mightily on the road no matter who we played.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:31 pm to Let Me Take A Selfie
I think we beat the Jags by 2 TDs in 2011. They were never really in the game. But, we could have easily lost to the Titans, Falcons, and Panthers on the road that year. Titans got down inside the 5 and a TD would have won it for them. Mike Smith decides to go for it on 4th down in OT, we stuff them, kick the game winning FG. We scored a TD with under a minute left to beat the Panthers. Could have easily been 2-6 on the road that year. Still would have gone 10-6 and probably still win the division though.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 2:51 pm to 3HourTour
hate to say it but I think it was the playoff loss in San Francisco.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:02 pm to JS87
It began last season. Look at that narrow 16-14 victory we had against a crappy TB team.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:07 pm to 3HourTour
The math kinda sorta backs my theory up, but to me it felt like the slide started in 2012* (asterix for Payton-less season) and has been continuing solidly on from there ever since. Games before that felt like, yeah tough road game, maybe we would win it, maybe we would lose, but at least we had a SHOT, and Saints fans could watch with reasonable confidence of something awesome happening.
But the Brees/Payton ROAD PLAYOFF record, sadly, it is exactly what it is. 1-4. Seattle x 2, San Fran, Chicago. Barely squeaked one out over Philly.
So on some level, arguably it has been an issue as long as Payton has been here. The "Dome finesse team" stereotype is hard to eliminate, although I didn't used to actually believe in it myself.
But the Brees/Payton ROAD PLAYOFF record, sadly, it is exactly what it is. 1-4. Seattle x 2, San Fran, Chicago. Barely squeaked one out over Philly.
So on some level, arguably it has been an issue as long as Payton has been here. The "Dome finesse team" stereotype is hard to eliminate, although I didn't used to actually believe in it myself.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:11 pm to SenatorJones
i would like someone to look up and post our running game and defensive rankings next to those records. If someone has more time than me that is.
Those two aspects of football travel well and i wouldnt be suprised to see a correlation.
Those two aspects of football travel well and i wouldnt be suprised to see a correlation.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 3:12 pm to JS87
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When did our "road woes" begin?
When bounty gate happened and Gregg Williams left
Posted on 9/30/14 at 5:44 pm to KindaRaw
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It began last season. Look at that narrow 16-14 victory we had against a crappy TB team.
that was week 2... we were pretty solid in victory in Chicago week 5
that's why I point to week 6 last season... that float pass over Greer caught by some nameless rookie that led to a 30-27 L at New England
ETA: also fairly certain the Tampa game in question was a bad weather game... believe there was a delay as we trudged to the 16-14 W
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:03 pm to rt3
Good point. The pass rush in that Chicago game was phenomenal iirc. I just remember we played so conservatively in the game though (and we hardly ran the ball.) Then came the finale of the NE game...
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:57 pm to KindaRaw
I dont know but I seem to remember the saints doing better on the road than at home in the early payton years.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:00 pm to JS87
It all began in that New England game we gave away. That game defined this team. If you ask me we were never able to recover and if our window truly is nearing its end, that was the defining moment.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:09 pm to JS87
It began in the 2010 playoffs when we went into Seattle and lost.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:19 pm to htran90
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It began in the 2010 playoffs when we went into Seattle and lost.
that was the telling moment of the Saints not being able to win on the road in the playoffs... that monkey is off our back now however... winning the somewhat-cold bowl over Philly last season (of course the frozen bowl was the SF/GB game the next day... which was roughly 20 degrees colder than the Saints game)
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:29 pm to Breesus
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:32 pm to Sleazy E
You can point to a lot of games here and there. 2010 at Seattle is reasonable (tough crowd, playoffs, weather). 2011 had us playing bad against Tampa, STL, and Tennessee, but we still were 5-3 that year. 2012 I'm not gonna count. But that Pats game was so heartbreaking. Then to really lay the egg against the Jets was the icing on the cake. It's funny because we played really well against Chicago on the road too. So gonna say the Pats last year.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 10:42 pm to htran90
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It began in the 2010 playoffs when we went into Seattle and lost.
I was going to post this.
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