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Isn't arguing that voter ID is bigotted against minorities racist?

Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:19 am
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:19 am
All these lefties that claim that voter ID laws and shorter early voting periods are racist and disenfranchise minorities - isn't this way of thinking racist in and of itself?

They are basically saying that minorities are so inept, so inferior, so incompetent, that they are unable to obtain a voter ID or get to the polls within 3 or 4 weeks.

That sounds awfully racist to me. Saying minorities are so incompetent that they can't even do a task as simple as going to vote, or obtaining an ID.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:22 am to
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Isn't arguing that voter ID is bigotted against minorities racist?
No, they're too stupid or lazy to get an ID or vote in a timely fashion. Signed, DNC
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:22 am to
the subtle racism of lowered expectations is the new racism of the Democratic party, replacing Jim Crow of the first half of the 20th century
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:23 am to
No, it isn't. Racism is just the only thing they can spew that will deflect the importance of their needing to be a voter ID law.
Posted by Chappy
G-Town
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:24 am to
[quote]the subtle racism of lowered expectations is the new racism of the Democratic party, replacing Jim Crow of the first half of the 20th century[/quote

Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32641 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:26 am to
The modern dem party treats personal responsibility like poll taxes
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:27 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:27 am to
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The modern dem party treats personal responsibility like poll taxes

i do love watching tuba try his flippant responses to comments about personal responsibility

it's basically along these lines: oh so you did the right thing? congrats. why should i care?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:30 am to
No.

The argument is dumb because the laws as written aren't inherently racist. In some areas they do impact minority voters, but that doesn't make them inherently racist.

It's just another ploy to keep certain voters from voting and it conjures up the poll quizzes and taxes from the Jim Crow era, so they get slapped with that label by some.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:31 am to
requiring voter ID isn't bigotted or racist imo, but you'd have to be extremely naive to think that some of the efforts of lawmakers prior to the 2012 election to get these voter ID laws passed wasn't an attempt at hurt the Democrats

I'm all in favor of requiring picture ID in order to vote
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32641 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:32 am to
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i do love watching tuba try his flippant responses to comments about personal responsibility it's basically along these lines: oh so you did the right thing? congrats. why should i care?


It has really shined through nationally in the bastardization of the "restrict access to" phrase especially regarding healthcare.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:32 am to
Yes. The idea that certain groups aren't quite up to the task of obtaining photo identification falls within the dictionary definition of racism.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32641 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:33 am to
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requiring voter ID isn't bigotted or racist imo, but you'd have to be extremely naive to think that some of the efforts of lawmakers prior to the 2012 election to get these voter ID laws passed wasn't an attempt at hurt the Democrats I'm all in favor of requiring picture ID in order to vote


This would be valid, except that almost all the voter ID laws included provisions for free ID's
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:34 am to
So the argument is of course democrats cheat but fixing the cheating will only help republicans so it's racist.
Posted by KCT
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Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:39 am to
You make both an excellent point and an accurate one, goldennugget.

The problem is, this issue has nothing to do with logic. The Dems demagogue this "issue" for at least two reasons. For one, they like to scare minorities into thinking that it's still 1962, and that big, bad white men are still plotting to take away their right to vote. For anyone who either watched or heard Eric Holder's resignation announcement, both Obama and (especially) Holder harped on how hard Holder had worked to protect the voting rights of all Americans. That was a total sham, but it resonates with Keisha and Tyrone, and the liberal media reports it like it's a real issue, too.

Secondly, the less security you have regarding voting and elections, the easier it is to commit voter fraud. That's almost exclusively a tactic employed by the Dems, and they are more than happy with the status quo.

Just one more instance where Obama, Holder and most Dems show themselves to be phonier than a $3 bill.

Obtw, delegates to the 2012 Democratic National Convention were not allowed inside the facility where the convention was being held unless they could provide a valid photo ID.

Oh, the irony......
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:39 am to
Yes it is incredibly racist
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:41 am to
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So the argument is of course democrats cheat but fixing the cheating will only help republicans so it's racist.
how much voter fraud do you think exists?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:41 am to
Well of course.

Everyone knows blacks are too stupid and poor to obtain an ID!

Seriously... I don't care who you are, if you are against voter ID, you have serious issues.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29407 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:43 am to
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how much voter fraud do you think exists?
Alot more than people think or want to admit.

Just one example.

Dead people voting.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 8:47 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:44 am to
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So the argument is of course democrats cheat but fixing the cheating will only help republicans so it's racist.


Cheating is more rampant in election fraud, and both sides are guilty as hell in that. Wonder why republicans aren't pushing laws to address those issues?
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73142 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 8:45 am to
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Alot more than people think or want to admit.
based on what information?
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