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Washington DC Starts Nation's First Gun Re-Registration
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:55 pm
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At the beginning of the year, Washington started a mandatory re-registration law for all legal gun owners. The city is the only jurisdiction in the country where registered gun owners have to submit to the police every three years and pay fees, or become a felon.The police department is sending notices to everyone who has registered a shotgun or rifle since 1976 -- or a handgun since it became legal in 2009 -- to come to police headquarters to get fingerprinted, photographed and pay fees. So far, very few people have obeyed.
Every gun owner is getting a notice from Metropolitan Police Department to come down to headquarters to be fingerprinted. They already gave their fingerprints to register the firearm.
So why do they have to be done again? It's not like fingerprints change. Well, that's what gun owner Lenny Harrell wants to know.
“At the beginning of registration, I had to fingerprint.” Harrell said. “Then I went down and had to re-fingerprint. And I asked, ‘Why? You guys got my prints.' They said,
‘No, you just got to reprint.'"
According to D.C. City Council Chairman Phil Mendelson, the reason for all this is that the police department lost all the fingerprints. The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost? No one will answer that.
But the “lost” fingerprints mean every legal gun owner in the nation's capital has to pay -- once again -- the $35 fee to run their prints through the FBI background check system.
However, the bigger cost is the registration fee -- which is $13 per gun. Lenny started collecting firearms in 2009. He has dozens of guns now. Re-registration will cost him hundreds of dollars -- every three years.
"In fact, I think it's going to be turned around as a cash cow,” said Harrell. “You're getting $13 a pop and got to get fingerprinted -- and I don't know how much going to the D.C. budget."
Actually, it's all going to the government. Just from the first 600 people this year -- who had an average of two guns each -- the District pocketed over $17,290.
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It seems this process has been a failure. Since the beginning of the year, the police have sent out over 7,000 renewal notices, but only 605 gun owners obeyed. The police estimate there are 30,000 registered guns in the city, but only 1,356 have been renewed.
The police came up with a convoluted system for following the city council's mandate on re-registration. You're given a three-month window based on your birthday. But the windows and the birthdays don't match. For example, my birthday is in March -- while my window was April to June.
The penalty is steep for those who are confused, never got the police notice or refuse to obey. If you don't renew in 30 days after your deadline, the fee doubles.
What's scarier is if you are 90 days late, your registration is cancelled, and you are committing a felony. The penalty is $1,000 fine and up to a year in jail on each count -- that is for each gun.
So far, the police have not turned over to the Office of the Attorney General the names of the 2,200 who are 90 days past their deadline, who are now criminals.
“I think they want as much control over every aspect of gun ownership as they can have,” said Wrenn. “And if they find someone they can go after on a technicality, the evidence of their past conducts says that they will."
I am also afraid of being on the wrong side of the law because of a technicality. I received a notice this spring to appear at police headquarters by June 30 this year -- even though renewal was almost a year away in Feb. 2015.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:02 pm to jamboybarry
This is just a cash cow, and to keep and get as much control of its citizens as possible. I foresee legal challenges to this.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:05 pm to Sentrius
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According to D.C. City Council Chairman Phil Mendelson, the reason for all this is that the police department lost all the fingerprints. The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost? No one will answer that.
How the frick is this excuse allowed to fly in D.C.?
Anytime they want to absolve themselves of any crime, they can just say "Oops, we lost the evidence" or "Our hard drives crashed"
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:06 pm to Sentrius
And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:11 pm to LSUGrrrl
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And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights.
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LSUGrrrl
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:13 pm to Sentrius
Send letter advising that all my guns were lost in freak shift of space-time continuum.
Add they can frick themselves.
Add they can frick themselves.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:19 pm to Sentrius
But violent crime is way, way down in D.C.
So, gun control must be working, right?
So, gun control must be working, right?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:21 pm to Sentrius
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The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost?
Do you actually use a computer on a regular basis?
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:22 pm to Sentrius
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This is just a cash cow
I think it's worse than that. The main intent seems to be to limit the number of firearms in a private citizen's possession. Should a minority of citizen actually be able to afford multiple firearms, however, then the government profits from the extra revenue.
A very dubious win-win.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:24 pm to SpidermanTUba
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The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost?
Do you actually use a computer on a regular basis?
I was gonna guess they used the same server as the IRS
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:45 pm to SpidermanTUba
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SpidermanTUbaPID
You misspelled Stupid
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:47 pm to stat19
How is this not an infringement on the right to bear arms?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:51 pm to Sentrius
Fingerprints were on the same cloud as IRS backups.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:52 pm to blackrose890
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How is this not an infringement on the right to bear arms?
Zero difference between this and a poll tax.
Actually, there is: guns are actually protected by the constitution.
The hypocrisy is palpable.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:52 pm to Sentrius
The original copy of our Constitution is housed in that shithole.
Think about that for a moment.
Think about that for a moment.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:58 pm to Sentrius
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It seems this process has been a failure. Since the beginning of the year, the police have sent out over 7,000 renewal notices, but only 605 gun owners obeyed. The police estimate there are 30,000 registered guns in the city, but only 1,356 have been renewed.
Roll frickin' Tide.
Row, row, fight the powah.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:09 am to Sentrius
I'd love to pull up all of the past gun control threads where rubes like...
a want
Rex
Draconian Sanctions
Tuba
asurob1
and who knows how many other shrills laughed and mocked the 2A threads about the govt
'coming to get your guns'
and 'you right wing extremists are just paranoid'
and 'the govt will never confiscate your gun, they don't want it'
oooooohhh the number of threads...
a want
Rex
Draconian Sanctions
Tuba
asurob1
and who knows how many other shrills laughed and mocked the 2A threads about the govt
'coming to get your guns'
and 'you right wing extremists are just paranoid'
and 'the govt will never confiscate your gun, they don't want it'
oooooohhh the number of threads...
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:14 am to LSUGrrrl
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LSUGrrrl
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And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights.
smart and pretty
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:16 am to Sentrius
This is why I live in Virginia
In all seriousness, if the city council think the rank and file officers in metro PD will go door to door in this city, they're out of their minds. The number of illegal guns has to be a double digit multiple of the legal ones.
In all seriousness, if the city council think the rank and file officers in metro PD will go door to door in this city, they're out of their minds. The number of illegal guns has to be a double digit multiple of the legal ones.
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