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Washington DC Starts Nation's First Gun Re-Registration

Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:55 pm
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At the beginning of the year, Washington started a mandatory re-registration law for all legal gun owners. The city is the only jurisdiction in the country where registered gun owners have to submit to the police every three years and pay fees, or become a felon.The police department is sending notices to everyone who has registered a shotgun or rifle since 1976 -- or a handgun since it became legal in 2009 -- to come to police headquarters to get fingerprinted, photographed and pay fees. So far, very few people have obeyed.

Every gun owner is getting a notice from Metropolitan Police Department to come down to headquarters to be fingerprinted. They already gave their fingerprints to register the firearm.

So why do they have to be done again? It's not like fingerprints change. Well, that's what gun owner Lenny Harrell wants to know.

“At the beginning of registration, I had to fingerprint.” Harrell said. “Then I went down and had to re-fingerprint. And I asked, ‘Why? You guys got my prints.' They said,

‘No, you just got to reprint.'"

According to D.C. City Council Chairman Phil Mendelson, the reason for all this is that the police department lost all the fingerprints. The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost? No one will answer that.

But the “lost” fingerprints mean every legal gun owner in the nation's capital has to pay -- once again -- the $35 fee to run their prints through the FBI background check system.

However, the bigger cost is the registration fee -- which is $13 per gun. Lenny started collecting firearms in 2009. He has dozens of guns now. Re-registration will cost him hundreds of dollars -- every three years.

"In fact, I think it's going to be turned around as a cash cow,” said Harrell. “You're getting $13 a pop and got to get fingerprinted -- and I don't know how much going to the D.C. budget."


Actually, it's all going to the government. Just from the first 600 people this year -- who had an average of two guns each -- the District pocketed over $17,290.


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It seems this process has been a failure. Since the beginning of the year, the police have sent out over 7,000 renewal notices, but only 605 gun owners obeyed. The police estimate there are 30,000 registered guns in the city, but only 1,356 have been renewed.

The police came up with a convoluted system for following the city council's mandate on re-registration. You're given a three-month window based on your birthday. But the windows and the birthdays don't match. For example, my birthday is in March -- while my window was April to June.

The penalty is steep for those who are confused, never got the police notice or refuse to obey. If you don't renew in 30 days after your deadline, the fee doubles.

What's scarier is if you are 90 days late, your registration is cancelled, and you are committing a felony. The penalty is $1,000 fine and up to a year in jail on each count -- that is for each gun.

So far, the police have not turned over to the Office of the Attorney General the names of the 2,200 who are 90 days past their deadline, who are now criminals.

“I think they want as much control over every aspect of gun ownership as they can have,” said Wrenn. “And if they find someone they can go after on a technicality, the evidence of their past conducts says that they will."

I am also afraid of being on the wrong side of the law because of a technicality. I received a notice this spring to appear at police headquarters by June 30 this year -- even though renewal was almost a year away in Feb. 2015.


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Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32641 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:57 pm to
"Common sense"
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:02 pm to
This is just a cash cow, and to keep and get as much control of its citizens as possible. I foresee legal challenges to this.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
30162 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

According to D.C. City Council Chairman Phil Mendelson, the reason for all this is that the police department lost all the fingerprints. The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost? No one will answer that.


How the frick is this excuse allowed to fly in D.C.?

Anytime they want to absolve themselves of any crime, they can just say "Oops, we lost the evidence" or "Our hard drives crashed"

Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:06 pm to
And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights. 




quote:

LSUGrrrl


Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98458 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:13 pm to
Send letter advising that all my guns were lost in freak shift of space-time continuum.

Add they can frick themselves.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89477 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:19 pm to
But violent crime is way, way down in D.C.

So, gun control must be working, right?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost?


Do you actually use a computer on a regular basis?

This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 9:24 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63192 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

This is just a cash cow


I think it's worse than that. The main intent seems to be to limit the number of firearms in a private citizen's possession. Should a minority of citizen actually be able to afford multiple firearms, however, then the government profits from the extra revenue.

A very dubious win-win.
Posted by carbola
Bloomington, IN
Member since Aug 2010
4308 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

The prints were done electronically. So how can they be lost?


Do you actually use a computer on a regular basis?



I was gonna guess they used the same server as the IRS
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

SpidermanTUbaPID


You misspelled Stupid
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6304 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:47 pm to
How is this not an infringement on the right to bear arms?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:51 pm to
Fingerprints were on the same cloud as IRS backups.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:52 pm to
quote:

How is this not an infringement on the right to bear arms?



Zero difference between this and a poll tax.

Actually, there is: guns are actually protected by the constitution.

The hypocrisy is palpable.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:52 pm to
The original copy of our Constitution is housed in that shithole.

Think about that for a moment.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55438 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

It seems this process has been a failure. Since the beginning of the year, the police have sent out over 7,000 renewal notices, but only 605 gun owners obeyed. The police estimate there are 30,000 registered guns in the city, but only 1,356 have been renewed.


Roll frickin' Tide.

Row, row, fight the powah.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8393 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:09 am to
I'd love to pull up all of the past gun control threads where rubes like...
a want
Rex
Draconian Sanctions
Tuba
asurob1

and who knows how many other shrills laughed and mocked the 2A threads about the govt

'coming to get your guns'

and 'you right wing extremists are just paranoid'

and 'the govt will never confiscate your gun, they don't want it'


oooooohhh the number of threads...
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40088 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:14 am to
quote:

LSUGrrrl


quote:

And yet, limiting early voting to only 28 days is an infringement of rights.



smart and pretty
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 9/30/14 at 7:16 am to
This is why I live in Virginia


In all seriousness, if the city council think the rank and file officers in metro PD will go door to door in this city, they're out of their minds. The number of illegal guns has to be a double digit multiple of the legal ones.
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