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Supreme Court lets Ohio limit early voting

Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:14 pm
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Acting on a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court issued an order Monday afternoon that allows Ohio officials to cut early voting in the state by a week.

In a one-page order (posted here), the court's five Republican-appointed justices agreed to lift a District Court judge's ruling that had blocked the state from carrying out legislation that cut early voting days from 35 to 28.

The four Democratic-appointed justices dissented, but none of the justices explained their positions.

Ohio officials welcomed the order, while those who had challenged the cutback in early voting time expressed disappointment.

"We are gratified the United States Supreme Court has allowed Ohio’s early voting law to stand," Secretary of State Jon Husted said in a statement.

“I plan to implement state law and the voting schedule established by Democrats and Republicans at the local level, meaning Ohioans will have 28 days of early voting, including two Saturdays and a Sunday. Ohioans can have confidence that it remains easy to vote and hard to cheat in our state," the Republican official said.

"We are disappointed that by a bare majority, the Supreme Court reinstated controversial voting changes that could make it harder for tens of thousands of Ohioans to vote," said Wendy Weiser of the Brennan Center for Justice. "Courts should serve as a bulwark against rollbacks to voting rights and prevent politicians from disenfranchising voters for political reasons."

Earlier this month, U.S. District Court Judge Peter Economus blocked the cut in early voting days, saying it was likely to have a disproportionate impact on African-American voters. Economus, a Clinton appointee, sits in Columbus.


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Why do we need 35 days of early voting? Jesus Christ. The obsession people have with getting voting percentages so high is perplexing. If you actually are educated and motivated to vote, you don't need a fricking month to do it.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71948 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:18 pm to
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Why do we need 35 days of early voting? Jesus Christ. The obsession people have with getting voting percentages so high is perplexing. If you actually are educated and motivated to vote, you don't need a fricking month to do it.
I do not know. This is insane. There is no legitimate reason a person cannot find a way to vote at one point in 4 weeks.

How is 35 weeks sufficient? Why not 42?

So very stupid.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70573 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:38 pm to
I agree. 28 days of early voting with a few weekend days included is plenty. There is no reason, short of being in the ICU, that you can't make it at some point over the course of a month.

What I understand even less is how having "only" 28 days, even if you think it's a bad policy, can possibly be unconstitutional.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123731 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:41 pm to
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Why do we need 35 days of early voting?
We don't. Considering how much can change in 35 days, I'm actually not sure how a vote that early can even be justified.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69211 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:44 pm to
Of course, democrats are claiming that this ruling is politically motivating because increased turnout means better results for democrats. However, why is it NOT politically motivated when dems try to pass laws that extend voting days?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:54 pm to
Even 28 days is still a lot to me. It should be 21 days and I think that's a fair amount of time for early voting.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69211 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 7:56 pm to
Democrats are revealing their subtle bigotry against blacks by saying that this ruling limits voting rights for minorities. You have to be a piece of shite to think that blacks are so incompetent that they need extra days to vote.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:04 pm to
It is a terribly thing to want more participation in voting.

As if people forgot why those hours were extended.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123731 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:09 pm to
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It is a terribly thing to want more participation in voting.
Neaux.

'It is a terribly thing to want' voting so far in advance as to invalidate the result.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420603 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:10 pm to
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It is a terribly thing to want more participation in voting.

this is such a bullshite and tired argument

i want more responsible voting. extending the voting period to more than 1 month is absurd

can you tell me why 28 days is not enough and why 35 days is required? why not 42?

to you, is there ever going to be a justification for decreasing the voting period? or will expansion alone be justified? if so, what is the magic number?
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14405 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:11 pm to
Well...you get bussed into whichever state, turn in your former state's ID, obtain a new state ID in the state you're going to vote in, register as a voter when you apply for the ID, wait for new picture ID to arrive in the mail, go vote. After you vote, simply return to your home state and repeat the process. Voila!!!
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69876 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Democrats are revealing their subtle bigotry against blacks by saying that this ruling limits voting rights for minorities. You have to be a piece of shite to think that blacks are so incompetent that they need extra days to vote.




Democrats think black people need help to wipe their own asses. There is nothing more racist than voting democrat.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90358 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:14 pm to
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It should be 21 days and I think that's a fair amount of time for early voting.


I think it should be 10 days. Too much can change in the last month before an election regarding a candidate. If you can't find time in 10 days, including 2 days on a weekend, to vote then you don't care enough to vote.

Extended early voting doesn't hardly increase turnout, I'd say 98-99 percent of people who will vote would still vote if it was decreased to 10 days. The extended period just gives time to enact more voter fraud and imo it's complete bullshite.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9076 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:15 pm to
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It is a terribly thing to want more participation in voting.


I agree. Too many idiots are casting votes as is.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71948 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:21 pm to
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It is a terribly thing to want more participation in voting. As if people forgot why those hours were extended.
Why don't we extend it to 42 days? 49? 365?

There is no rational explanation behind the early voting being that long. It should be a week tops with the opportunity to request mail in ballots.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 8:22 pm
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:25 pm to
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. this is such a bull shite and tired argument i want more responsible voting. extending the voting period to more than 1 month is absurd can you tell me why 28 days is not enough and why 35 days is required? why not 42? to you, is there ever going to be a justification for decreasing the voting period? or will expansion alone be justified? if so, what is the magic number?
Why do you need to shorten it?

The rest is just a tired strawman.

Be honest. It is done to limit voting. It is done because it affects certain groups of people.

Would you like to explain your solutions for the fiasco of 04?
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:26 pm to
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'It is a terribly thing to want' voting so far in advance as to invalidate the result.
Your evidence of this is?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
420603 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Why do you need to shorten it?

it's absurd as it is. far too much can happen in that time span to change a mind. also, it encourages irresponsibility

quote:

The rest is just a tired strawman.

no it's not. if you believe it should be longer, then why not an even longer period? same argument you're making applies

quote:

Would you like to explain your solutions for the fiasco of 04?

which fiasco?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
71948 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:31 pm to
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no it's not. if you believe it should be longer, then why not an even longer period? same argument you're making applies
Exactly. Why only 35 days? Why not longer?

I'm sure even less people will be disenfranchised if it were even longer.

Like I said, it should be 1 week. No more, no less.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11772 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 8:35 pm to
Should have been a simple SC vote. States get to set early voting guidelines and Ohio wanted to Chang there's. To rule x days was needed then the judicial branch becomes the legislative branch. Also effecting every other state in the process


I am less concerned of the ruling then the actual vote on the ruling. Should have been 9-0
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