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65% Estate Tax Proposal

Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:11 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:11 am
Senator Bernie Saunders plan from Forbes article.

quote:

“Unless we reduce skyrocketing wealth and income inequality,” he declared, “unless we end the ability of the super-rich to buy elections, the United States will be well on its way toward becoming an oligarchic form of society where almost all power rests with the billionaire class.”

Sanders thinks a new, stronger estate tax could stave off that sort of dystopian future – and help with other problems, too. “A progressive estate tax on multi-millionaires and billionaires is the fairest way to reduce wealth inequality, lower our $17 trillion national debt and raise the resources we need for investments in infrastructure, education and other neglected national priorities,” he argued.

Sanders may be right. But if he really wants to advance the case for remaking the estate tax (and undoing the damage done to it during the 2000s), he should talk less about redistributing wealth and more about shifting the tax burden.

Sanders likes to cast his proposal in grand historical terms, laying claim to a distinctly American tradition of progressive tax reform. “More than a century ago,” he wrote, “President Theodore Roosevelt recognized the danger of massive wealth and income inequality and what it meant to the economic and political well-being of the country. In addition to busting up the big trusts of his time, he fought for the creation of a progressive estate tax to reduce the enormous concentration of wealth that existed during the Gilded Age.”


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Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 am to
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Senator Bernie Saunders


He is a straight up Marxist-Leninist, so the only thing surprising is that it isn't a 100% Estate Tax Proposal.

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 am to
Bernie Sanders; dr voted down
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 am to
frick these people

You work hard not just to better your life but to give your children a better life and then these motherfrickers rob your grave

There should be NO estate tax
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112393 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:13 am to
When Warren Buffet says that income tax on the rich should be higher it's because his income is a tiny fraction of his wealth. I don't think Warren would be so keen on this wealth tax idea.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40081 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:14 am to
quote:

65% Estate Tax Proposal


frick that shite. Why should the kids have to pay for inheriting what their parents worked their lifes to amass?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32640 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:22 am to
quote:

unless we end the ability of the super-rich to buy elections


So his solution to this, is to reduce wealth and not address campaign finance reform?

What a fricking clown
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126937 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:25 am to
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Unless we reduce skyrocketing wealth
Very telling about Comrade Bernie.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:29 am to
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When Warren Buffet says that income tax on the rich should be higher it's because his income is a tiny fraction of his wealth. I don't think Warren would be so keen on this wealth tax idea.
I don't think you know Mr. Buffet very well. He supports raising estate taxes.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112393 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:33 am to
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I don't think you know Mr. Buffet very well. He supports raising estate taxes.


Point of clarification... Do you mean by 'estate taxes' = inheritance tax? Or do you mean 'estate taxes' = wealth that you have NOW, while you are alive?

If it's the former, he doesn't care. He'll be dead. But then Sanders idea is useless because increasing the death tax results in very little revenue.

If you mean the latter I need a link because I don't believe it.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81268 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:34 am to
Is this proposal over a certain amount? Like $5 mill?

If so I agree. If it's straight up 65% on all than that's way too much.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72000 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:35 am to
I vehemently oppose this.
quote:

“Unless we reduce skyrocketing wealth and income inequality,” he declared, “unless we end the ability of the super-rich to buy elections, the United States will be well on its way toward becoming an oligarchic form of society where almost all power rests with the billionaire class.”
What fear-mongering bullshite.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
39847 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:35 am to
So we're taking in more money to the federal coffers than anytime in the history of the world and the Dems (cause that dude is just a Dem+) STILL want MOAR????

Typical.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81268 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:36 am to
the fact that nobody is questioning whether or not there's a certain exemption amount is shocking to me. why would anybody (except the top 1%) oppose this if the limit is only for 10 million dollars or above?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10803 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:37 am to
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I don't think you know Mr. Buffet very well. He supports raising estate taxes.

How many companies has Buffet acquired because the owners were forced to sell due to shite like estate taxes? Not to mention his insurance and estate planning interests.

Just another clown talking his book.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89474 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Is this proposal over a certain amount? Like $5 mill?


Why does this matter? People with large estates move their property into trusts and family corporations to avoid estate taxes.

Let's not pretend that human behavior doesn't adjust to tax policy.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:38 am to
I love bernie. seems like one of the few not bought off yet by the money interests. I said yet
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Is this proposal over a certain amount? Like $5 mill?


I think it is estates over $1 billion.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

why would anybody (except the top 1%) oppose this if the limit is only for 10 million dollars or above?

BECAUSE ITS NOT THE GOVERNMENTS frickING MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:38 am to
quote:

why would anybody (except the top 1%) oppose this if the limit is only for 10 million dollars or above?


Because all that money is already taxed. Because government is pulling in record tax money.


Have you socialist clowns considered that the income gap has grown as taxes have increased?
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