re: Is Sean Payton over rated?

Name 5 better coaches

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He's a below average playcaller and offensive coordinator now.

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below average?

do you even know what that means, alejanrdro?

Nope correction 2009. Our offense didn't explode until Carmichael took over, in fact we were struggling ON THE ROAD(yet again) before he got hurt in that game.

He made his name off 2009 and will forever ride free because of it

I'm not saying fire him but even Tom Landry was let go. Can't last forever

Payton has even admitted several times that he's done a bad job of sticking with the run. He admitted it 2013 after he returned from his suspension and claimed to have learned things from watching. Then he said it twice last season and he's already said it once this season.

Yet he constantly passes way to much and eschews the run despite the Saints needing to protect their defense, despite the Saints having one of the best YPC averages in the NFL, despite the Saints having one of the best stables of RB's in the NFL.

It's infuriating. Better playcalling would have us at 4-1 right now and better playcalling would have had us as the #1 seed in the NFC last season. The losses at New England, NY Jets and at Carolina last year were each on Payton. The losses at Atlanta and Cleveland this year were each on Payton.

Name 20 offensive minds better than Payton in the NFL right now.

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"The Best Coaches in the NFL. Period" don't have those 2 glaring and large problems.


Outside of Coughlin and Belichick, you cannot name an NFL coach who isn't flawed and deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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not sure if serious ...

Ron Rivera makes better decisions than Sean Payton over the past 16 regular season games. Are you blind?

Should I remind you of Sean Payton's explanation for the dumbest playcall that we've ever seen? The explanation that somehow makes the call even worse?

Worst playcall ever

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"It's something we've had up for a while. Even against their safe look, it was something we thought would have a chance," said Saints coach Sean Payton. "There was some misdirection involved, and they played it pretty well."

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Yeah, let's have our fricking punter roll out with a single read against a punt safe and throw the first pass of his NFL career while Drew Brees stands on the bench.

Not even Les Miles can approach that level of stupidity and arrogance.

Yes, Lester - I'm going to sit here and do that for you.

Take Payton's cock out of your mouth. He's horrible and has been horrible for over a year.

I'm not blowing him. You said he was below average. That is clearly you talking out of your arse as usual. You were blaming Drew Brees a few years ago, now all of a sudden its Sean Payton. Make up your mind.

I don't care if you have an opinion, but at least have something you can stand on.

I'm not replying to LE, just replying in general. As far as the road woes, that only started last year and the majority of those games were pretty close. People bashing his assistant coaches and saying he doesn't develop talent like on defense, wide receiver, etc are in my mind making him sound like an even better coach, in some fricked up way.

He is one of the most winningest coaches since he started from one of the worst franchises in history and did it all with nothing but a good, but according to this thread, overrated QB. If a coach, with horrible assistants, horrible players, can do what he has done I would say he is a pretty good coach.