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Beheadings in Saudi Arabia

Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:57 pm
The Death Penalty in Saudi Arabia in 10 Shocking Facts

More than 2,000 people were executed in Saudi Arabia between 1985 and 2013.

At least 22 people were put to death between 4 and 22 August 2014 alone – more than one every day.

The death penalty in Saudi Arabia is used in violation of international human rights law and standards. Trials in capital cases are often held in secret and defendants rarely have access to lawyers.

People may be convicted solely on the basis of “confessions” obtained under torture, other ill-treatment or deception.

Non-lethal crimes including “adultery”, armed robbery, “apostasy”, drug-related offences, rape, “witchcraft” and “sorcery” are punishable by death.

Three people under 18 were executed in 2013, and so far in 2014 one has been sentenced to death, in blatant violation of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.

In some cases, the relatives of those on death row are not notified of the executions in advance.

Foreign nationals represent a disproportionate number of those executed, largely because of inadequate legal representation and translation support. Almost half of the 2,000 people executed between 1985 and 2013 were foreign nationals.

People with mental disabilities are not spared the death sentence.

Most executions are by beheading. Many take place in public. In some cases, decapitated bodies are left hanging in public squares as a “deterrent”.

Just seems strange to me that we bomb one group of brown Muslims for doing this and pamper another group doing essentially the same thing. Our foreign policy is fricked up.

amnesty international
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:01 pm to
There is a lesson to be had from that list…don't visit Saudi Arabia under any circumstance.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:01 pm to
Amnesty International is not an objective source. It's like asking the Sierra Club what they think about oil companies.

We do not pamper SA. They were instrumental in providing their bases for Gulf War I (Kuwait). And we don't give them stuff. They pay for it.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:04 pm to
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And we don't give them stuff. They pay for it.

That's the most important point.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:14 pm to
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“apostasy”


We champion a culture of religious freedom here at home and yet are aligned with states that execute people for apostasy.

Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13546 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:39 pm to
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People with mental disabilities are not spared the death sentence.


Ok, well they shouldnt be.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:43 pm to
I agree. If a retard murders my wife I want the retard to have his head cut off.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:58 pm to
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Just seems strange to me that we bomb one group of brown Muslims for doing this and pamper another group doing essentially the same thing. Our foreign policy is fricked up.



It does seem strange doesn't it, but there is enough info out there to people who want to understand why we don't.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41059 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 1:59 pm to
So, Amnesty International statistics are wrong? Just because the source of the facts is a human rights groups doesn't mean they aren't true.

Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 2:01 pm to
The US has executed 1351 in the same time period.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:07 pm to
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So, Amnesty International statistics are wrong? Just because the source of the facts is a human rights groups doesn't mean they aren't true.


If I were a gambling man I'd bet a Million bucks that there statistics are wrong. They are in the business of lying. I've been reading and critiquing AI for 40 years. They are useless.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20373 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:17 pm to
I wonder how the Middle East would be if we invaded SA instead of Iraq?
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41157 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:53 pm to
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More than 2,000 people were executed in Saudi Arabia between 1985 and 2013


Since 1984, 1378 people were executed in the United States. So their numbers are that extreme. And how many of their executions were done at our behest?
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112406 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I wonder how the Middle East would be if we invaded SA instead of Iraq?

Why would we invade SA? Just for fun?
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 3:57 pm to
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The US has executed 1351 in the same time period.


Should be way mnore
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:01 pm to
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The US has executed 1351 in the same time period.


Not even in the same ballpark if you judge it per capita.
Posted by Socratics
Virginia Beach
Member since Dec 2013
2463 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:11 pm to
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If I were a gambling man I'd bet a Million bucks that there statistics are wrong. They are in the business of lying. I've been reading and critiquing AI for 40 years. They are useless.


I don't think so. It wouldn't be that hard to find out the amount of people executed for a crime even in non-transparent countries. 2000 people isn't even a high amount of people to keep track of even in 1 year.



Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:16 pm to
Look up the Saudi deal with the devil sometimes.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19239 posts
Posted on 9/26/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Look up the Saudi deal with the devil sometimes.


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