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Military to allow undocumented immigrants to serve

Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:59 pm
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:59 pm
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A small number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. will have an opportunity to join the military for the first time in decades under a new Department of Defense policy unveiled Thursday.

The new rules will expand an existing program allowing recruiters to target foreign nationals with high-demand skills, mostly rare foreign language expertise or specialized health care training.

For the first time, the program — known as Military Accessions in the National Interest, or MAVNI — will be open to immigrants without a proper visa if they came to the U.S. with their parents before age 16. More specifically, they must be approved under a 2012 Obama administration policy known as Deferred Action for Child Arrivals, or DACA.


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The Pentagon program is capped at 1,500 recruits per year. Officials say it's unclear how many of those might be unlawful DACA status immigrants as opposed to others who are also eligible for military service under MAVNI, including those with legal, nonpermanent visas such as students or tourists.


Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89476 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:05 pm to
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high-demand skills, mostly rare foreign language expertise or specialized health care training.



Like an Palestinian doctor who knows Arabic?

No thanks if he's not legal. Heck, we've had our hands full with legal ones, actually.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98442 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:09 pm to
Goddamn...This country is completely fricked.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72866 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:15 pm to
They are just more cannon fodder to our government just like the rest of our military. Pieces in an economic chess game.
Posted by JazzyJeff
Japan
Member since Sep 2006
3938 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:16 pm to
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Goddamn...This country is completely fricked.
And you just noticed? Be a man, like me, and leave, like I did.

I just love looking/laughing at America from the outside looking in.

America is truly a shitty country loaded with ignorant, gullible morons.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:19 pm to
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Be a man, like me, and leave, like I did.






Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:33 pm to
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America is truly a shitty country loaded with ignorant, gullible morons.


Good god you are a fricking sorry piece of trash.... I can't wait until America pulls out of Japan and China comes knocking and yoh run your happy arse back to the good ol USofA to let these ol' rednecks save your sorry arse
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:34 pm to
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JazzyJeff


You live in a country that's held up and protected by America dolt.
Posted by Al Dante
Member since Mar 2013
1858 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:35 pm to
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JazzyJeff Japan : I just love looking/laughing at America from the outside looking in.


As if Japan isn't home to some of the dumbest shite on the planet. Vending machines dispensing used underwear. WTF Japan?
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:39 pm to
I hope Godzilla steps on him.
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8108 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:41 pm to
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As if Japan isn't home to some of the dumbest shite on the planet. Vending machines dispensing used underwear. WTF Japan?



The dude lives in Japan and thinks the U.S. should allow EVERYONE who wants to come here a free pass... What percentage of Japan is foreign born again?
Posted by stormy
Member since Sep 2014
578 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:43 pm to
I really think that's. a bad ideal. I'm wondering did I move to mexico? This country needs to be loyal at least to our military. Its ridiculous. to have them in our country let alone in our military . Undocumented people in this country need to be deported not promoted . We need to take care of our own people.Our government breaks the immigration laws.Nobody who profits off it wants to do anything about the problem. Now they are letting. them in the military! I thought no one was above the law.
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:05 pm to
The MAVNI program is small and there are more then enough documented foreigners who apply considering the benefits. I have never heard of anyone who was in the program who was not there to enlist as a linguist, and it is almost entirely mid-east and central asian linguists. Now we are are going to accept middle easterners and afghans whose parents are illegally in the US, maybe this is a trap for them.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:18 pm to
I think it's a good way to let them earn citizenship. I doubt a douche bag gang banger will serve honorably. I'm OK with this.
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:23 pm to
I agree with Smack. Linguist or Medical skills, they speak English, and they serve on foreign soil under combat-like conditions.

They have earned the right to become a citizen.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:30 pm to
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really think that's. a bad ideal. I'm wondering did I move to mexico? This country needs to be loyal at least to our military. Its ridiculous. to have them in our country let alone in our military . Undocumented people in this country need to be deported not promoted . We need to take care of our own people.Our government breaks the immigration laws.Nobody who profits off it wants to do anything about the problem. Now they are letting. them in the military! I thought no one was above the law.


This isn't anything new. Pretty sure we've been letting people earn citizenship by serving during war time for decades. I have zero issue with people that want to earn a place here. Hell, I would if I were them. Now if only we could trade some of our undesirables for them in return!!
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35459 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:41 pm to
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I think it's a good way to let them earn citizenship. I doubt a douche bag gang banger will serve honorably. I'm OK with this.

Agreed. If they serve honorably, they're alright with me.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32857 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:52 pm to
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I agree with Smack. Linguist or Medical skills, they speak English, and they serve on foreign soil under combat-like conditions. 

They have earned the right to become a citizen.


I agree with this. As a side note, my great grandfather came to the U.S. from Italy in WWI as an orphan and worked for the military bc he spoke 9 languages.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32479 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:54 pm to
France has been doing this for years.

It's called the Foreign Legion.

Good way to earn citizenship.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27318 posts
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:57 pm to
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agree with this. As a side note, my great grandfather came to the U.S. from Italy in WWI as an orphan and worked for the military bc he spoke 9 languages.


Mine immigrated here. All 4 of his sons, who were also born in Italy, served and one died at Normandy. They had no problems serving proudly for their new country and fighting the fascist that had taken over theirs. They are still quite proud of their Italian heritage. We fly both flags at our family reunions, but they're 100% Americans.
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