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The FBI Director doesn't like Apple's new encryption standard
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:12 pm
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:37 pm to Jim Rockford
screw that dude.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:44 pm to Jim Rockford
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He said he could not understand why companies would “market something expressly to allow people to place themselves beyond the law.”
Because frick you? That's why.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:08 pm to Jim Rockford
Looks like you are going to have to do a real investigation instead of hope for dumb selfies. If you have a warrant, is it not reasonable to have them unlock the phone for you? Wouldn't that be part of complying with the investigation?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Give the government access to your phone or the terrorists win.
Is that about right?
Is that about right?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:19 pm to Mr Gardoki
There is case law that found a person does NOT have do that.
U.S. v. John Doe, Nos. 11-12268 & 11-15421, D.C. Docket No. 3:11-mc-00041-LAC (11th Circuit Court of Appeals)
In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum Dated March 25, 2011
The Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination protects against being forced to decrypt hard drive contents.
“We hold that the act of Doe’s decryption and production of the contents of the hard drives would sufficiently implicate the Fifth Amendment privilege. We reach this holding by concluding that (1) Doe’s decryption and production of the contents of the drives would be testimonial, not merely a physical act; and (2) the explicit and implicit factual communications associated with the decryption and production are not foregone conclusions.”
U.S. v. John Doe, Nos. 11-12268 & 11-15421, D.C. Docket No. 3:11-mc-00041-LAC (11th Circuit Court of Appeals)
In re Grand Jury Subpoena Duces Tecum Dated March 25, 2011
The Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination protects against being forced to decrypt hard drive contents.
“We hold that the act of Doe’s decryption and production of the contents of the hard drives would sufficiently implicate the Fifth Amendment privilege. We reach this holding by concluding that (1) Doe’s decryption and production of the contents of the drives would be testimonial, not merely a physical act; and (2) the explicit and implicit factual communications associated with the decryption and production are not foregone conclusions.”
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:20 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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Because frick you? That's why.
This is the correct answer.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:25 pm to Jim Rockford
We've gone to using AES256 NSA Suite B encryption on our products and engineering to safeguard data security. For those that don't know, that's a cipher used for Top-Secret military and data security.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:26 pm to Five0
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There is case law that found a person does NOT have do that.
That's an interesting interpretation of the fif, I'm not complaining though.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:41 pm to junkfunky
Interesting ruling. They should take issue with that before apple.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 7:51 pm to Jim Rockford
is right. I just got more and more pissed as I got further in to that article. My response to the government is GFY.
Can't wait to get my shiney new better encrypted Google device now.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:04 pm to tgrgrd00
Reading that article is disturbing. Do police even get a token smattering of Con Law as part of their training? It's like they see the constitution as something to be overcome, not respected.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:33 pm to kclsufan
I would not read too much into it. The FBI director is an appointed position. I know this is not the PT Board, but take that for what it is worth.
ETA: With the most recent ruling on cell phone in particular this is not as big an issue as the story or the director (who doesn't investigate $hit) make it out to be.
Riley v. California 9-0 decision for your reading pleasure.
Seeing as how I'm the only person providing controlling case law, yeah I think those of us in the field actually do.
Androids next update is supposed to follow suit.
LINK from 7 days ago.
ETA: With the most recent ruling on cell phone in particular this is not as big an issue as the story or the director (who doesn't investigate $hit) make it out to be.
Riley v. California 9-0 decision for your reading pleasure.
quote:
Do police even get a token smattering of Con Law as part of their training?
Seeing as how I'm the only person providing controlling case law, yeah I think those of us in the field actually do.
quote:
Speaking of obvious political trash talk, this is a quotable gem for the Apple/Android wars:
quote:
“Apple will become the phone of choice for the pedophile”
Androids next update is supposed to follow suit.
LINK from 7 days ago.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:41 pm to Five0
Speaking of obvious political trash talk, this is a quotable gem for the Apple/Android wars:
quote:
“Apple will become the phone of choice for the pedophile”
Posted on 9/25/14 at 8:45 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Just... Wow
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:10 am to Jim Rockford
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“Apple will become the phone of choice for the pedophile,” said John J. Escalante, chief of detectives for Chicago’s police department. “The average pedophile at this point is probably thinking, I’ve got to get an Apple phone.”
this is a public servant
should be terminated immediately
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:21 am to DelU249
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“Apple will become the phone of choice for the pedophile,” said John J. Escalante, chief of detectives for Chicago’s police department. “The average pedophile at this point is probably thinking, I’ve got to get an Apple phone.”
Wow, what a fricking moron...
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:21 am to DelU249
Obvious statement is obvious, but:
If a pedophile is worried about getting caught, they wouldn't use a phone at all to do their dealings, not even a blackphone.
ETA: Pretty sure you can't use Tor on an iPhone.
ETA2: Nevermind. Onion Browser is on the App Store.
If a pedophile is worried about getting caught, they wouldn't use a phone at all to do their dealings, not even a blackphone.
ETA: Pretty sure you can't use Tor on an iPhone.
ETA2: Nevermind. Onion Browser is on the App Store.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:22 am to DelU249
The ironic part is that the avg pedo doesn't think twice about his cell phone... But once he reads this article, this guy just told him which phone he should get. Real smooth FBI
Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:29 am to ell_13
Chicago PD is the PD pedophiles love most
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