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when was the last time we had a good Attorney General?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:33 pm
I don't like Eric Holder for a variety of reasons, top on the list is prosecuting cannabis growers despite promises not to. Why promise not to then do it?
But that is just one along a pretty long list of grievances.
Then I think - when did the US have an AG that I thought i did a good job?
I was out of the country for a large chunk of Mike Mularsky's tenure and didn't pay attention.
But Gonzales, Ashcroft and Reno all sucked big time.
And I didn't really pay attention before then.
Is this a job that is just impossible to do, or have we just been stuck with quite a few turds in a row?
But that is just one along a pretty long list of grievances.
Then I think - when did the US have an AG that I thought i did a good job?
I was out of the country for a large chunk of Mike Mularsky's tenure and didn't pay attention.
But Gonzales, Ashcroft and Reno all sucked big time.
And I didn't really pay attention before then.
Is this a job that is just impossible to do, or have we just been stuck with quite a few turds in a row?
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Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:46 pm to Hawkeye95
Mukasey was pretty good, I think. Being a good AG is like being a good cornerback - no one should really ever hear your name during the game.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:56 pm to Hawkeye95
What was wrong with Ashcroft?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 1:57 pm to Hawkeye95
Mukasey, then back to Thornburgh and Barr.
Holder is the worst since Mitchell though.
Holder is the worst since Mitchell though.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:16 pm to Hawkeye95
Is that the best ya got on Ashcroft?
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:24 pm to Hawkeye95
Yesterday, he resigned today
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:25 pm to Zach
are you defending that song? Seriously.
Other gripes would include allowing torture and support of patriot act, not to mention his actions against pornography.
Other gripes would include allowing torture and support of patriot act, not to mention his actions against pornography.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:26 pm to Hawkeye95
What are the odds the next AG is worse than Holder?
I have no faith in Barry.
I have no faith in Barry.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:27 pm to Hawkeye95
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Other gripes would include allowing torture and support of patriot act, not to mention his actions against pornography.
I've got no problem with torture of Muslims terrorists.
Porn still exists.
Wanta try again? Ashcroft was a good AG.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:28 pm to Zach
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I've got no problem with torture of Muslims terrorists.
I think torture is wrong for anyone. And the torture stuff wasnt just for brown people.
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Porn still exists
yes but anyone who tries to stop internet porn is a fricking retard and wasting precious resources.
Are you a fan of the patriot act? I thought you loved freedom.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:36 pm to Hawkeye95
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I think torture is wrong for anyone
Perhaps you've heard of Gen West. He found out that there was a plot against his life. He tortured a Muslim and found out the info to foil the plot. Gen. West was discharged from the military and then backlash of his story got him catapulted into political office.
I have no problem with torture when the enemy uses torture as their main strategy.
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Are you a fan of the patriot act?
No.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 2:44 pm to Zach
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I have no problem with torture when the enemy uses torture as their main strategy.
the problem with this is the torture was not limited to muslims, it could be used on anyone thought to be an enemy of the gov't. or a terrorist.
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No.
ashcroft was a strong supporter of the patriot act. And also a strong proponent of searching without a warrant. though he did shoot down stellar winds. But still a tPOS if you ask me.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:05 pm to Zach
quote:He was as tone deaf to religion as Holder is to race.
Ashcroft was a good AG.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 3:53 pm to Hawkeye95
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ashcroft was a strong supporter of the patriot act. And also a strong proponent of searching without a warrant. though he did shoot down stellar winds. But still a tPOS if you ask me.
Did Ashcroft go after political opponents like Holder did? You are engaging in something called false equivalence. IE, I ran a red light so I am a criminal. Hitler killed 6 million Jews so he is a criminal. Therefore, I am Hitler.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:17 pm to Zach
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Did Ashcroft go after political opponents like Holder did?
Both holder and ashcroft can suck, its not mutually exclusive.
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You are engaging in something called false equivalence. IE, I ran a red light so I am a criminal. Hitler killed 6 million Jews so he is a criminal. Therefore, I am Hitler.
No I am not. I am saying I didn't like Holder, or ashcroft.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:22 pm to Hawkeye95
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No I am not. I am saying I didn't like Holder, or ashcroft.
You don't understand the term. Let me help. I don't like coconut or dog shite. But if given a choice I'm gonna eat the coconut.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:25 pm to Zach
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You don't understand the term. Let me help. I don't like coconut or dog shite. But if given a choice I'm gonna eat the coconut.
this was not the question, the question was when was the last time we had a good AG.
Not the time we had an AG better than Holder.
Dementia is a real issue, have you had a screening? I would recommend long term care insurance first though.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:26 pm to Zach
Ashcroft was good by me but a little weird about covering up the naked statues.
Super solid on 2nd amendment.
Super solid on 2nd amendment.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 4:29 pm to TrueTiger
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Super solid on 2nd amendment.
the AG shouldn't really get involved in 2nd amendment issues if you ask me, only if congress where to restrict rights to guns which considering that most of ashcroft was under republican congressional leadership was unlikely.
but yes, the statue covering up was a tad odd.
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