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re: Seadrill (SDRL) has a yield of 0%.

Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:55 pm to
That would have been a looooooong ride down
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:56 pm to
dat profit doe

sad to say the money wasn't good use elsewhere. stupid CAK
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

If we go below $50/barrel, there will be alot more to worry about than SDRL.


Like what? Demand isn't going down in the US, it's just an oversupply of oil on the market. Oil was very cheap before 9/11 and all the middle east turmoil ($20ish a barrel). Our economy was booming then.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:10 pm to
You are talking about hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. Probably hundreds of oilfield related companies going out of business. All the billions of dollars of assets and infrastructure for shale/fracking no longer being produced. There is a ripple effect
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:17 pm to
I won't get into the specifics, but I can't stand that argument regardless of the industry.

Do you drive a car? Think of all the horse and buggy companies you put out of business.

You can listen to music on your Iphone? Damn all those sony walkman employees...

Economies change and fluctuate. Oil and gas are going to really be hurting when solar power reaches the efficiencies it needs to be profitable in a few years.

In fact I would be surprised if my job was around in 10 years due to the advancement of computers and AI. It's just the way the world evolves...


ETA: To address your comment directly, there will me MANY more companies that benefit from cheap oil. It will all even out...
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:24 pm to
Im not a global oil expert, not even close. However, If oil goes from $110 down to sub $50 in one to two years, i think there will be problems on planet earth.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37694 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:26 pm to
However, If oil goes from $110 down to sub $50 in one to two years, i think there will be problems on planet earth.

Can you add some color to this argument? I'd like to understand your viewpoint. Oil has been cheap before and everything was great.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:31 pm to
Im not arguing, I am in no way informed enough to know what would happen.

I just dont see how something bad wont happen in or relating to the middle east if oil is below $40/barrel.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:34 pm to
Just a discussion. Not trying to argue with you guys either.

I personally don't think it gets anywhere near that low. But if it does, it will make a lot of other companies very profitable. As a blanket statement, cheap energy is GREAT for an economy.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:41 pm to
I guess i would have to know how it affected the LNG market, whats going on with alternative energy, how do other commodities look? etc.

I love rice and beans, I just dont want to have to kill people to protect my stash of them.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80760 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:52 pm to
Another good article on SDRL. If yall aren't signed up for Seeking Alpha, I suggest doing so. Its free and has great articles.

LINK

quote:

When it comes to Seadrill, investors mostly focus on its extreme dividend yield, or its leveraged profile compared to peers. As a result, investors seem to think that an impending dividend cut and Seadrill's comparatively high levels of leverage are the reasons why its shares have performed so poorly lately.


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A look at the performance of Seadrill's peers, however, shows that investors are not only critical with respect to Seadrill, which makes it unlikely that leverage and dividend concerns are the only drivers of the recent value destruction: All offshore companies are down sharply over the course of this year.


quote:

Downturns in the offshore drilling business come and go, just like in any other business, so investors really need to keep a sense of proportion here.

Seadrill is one of the largest offshore drillers in the business, if any company has the ability to withstand a short-term downturn and refinance debt, it should be Seadrill.

Further, Seadrill has working and contract relationships with the largest companies in the energy sector: From ExxonMobil (NYSE:XOM) to Chevron (NYSE:CVX) and Hess (NYSE:HES), all major energy firms can be counted among Seadrill's clients. More importantly, Seadrill continues to benefit from a massive build-up of work that needs to done.


quote:

With falling oil prices, drilling becomes less attractive. Higher oil prices, on the other hand, often lead to a gold rush mentality, that can cause a serious increase in drilling activity. As logical as this is, it is also important to realize that a business, especially one of the size of Seadrill, can't be run based on where oil prices are heading on any given day or week. Seadrill is in the business for the long haul, and investors should be, too.


quote:

Bottom Line
Seadrill remains a hotly debated stock, and discussions usually center around three themes, which are all very well known and understood: Sector slowdown, high leverage, and an impending dividend cut.

But how about taking a step back and realizing that Seadrill is well positioned to withstand softer short term growth. Oil prices also won't stay low forever. As soon as oil prices turn, I would bet sentiment towards the offshore driller changes about as quickly as it went south over the last three months.

If investors have an investment horizon of only two or three months, I understand the unsettling debate over the three themes mentioned above. Long-term investors, though, should carefully take into consideration Seadrill's superior fleet profile, large size, fantastic order backlog, and good standing among customers. All other problems are solvable. Long-term Buy.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:23 pm to
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As a blanket statement, cheap energy is GREAT for an economy.



not in south la
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 4:30 pm to
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not in south la

This is my mindset when I am saying how low oil prices is a bad thing. I am mainly thinking about Louisiana with my response earlier
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7208 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 7:54 pm to
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not in south la


Yeah lots of people hurting in South LA if oil/gas prices are low.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16900 posts
Posted on 11/13/14 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

quote: As a blanket statement, cheap energy is GREAT for an economy.


Typical gump
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/13/14 at 11:17 pm to
Including me probably
Posted by LSUneaux
NOLA
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:24 pm to
Does SDRL usually have a P/E of 2.5 or is this really really an exceptional time to buy?
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80760 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:58 pm to
Well it is down over 50% this year...
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
16900 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 8:49 am to
If yall are looking for a dividend stock, why not NTI?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:14 am to
Thoughts on whether dividend is cut tomorrow?
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