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Natural factors the cause of warming temperatures on the West Coast
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:53 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 6:53 am
Nature needs to be taxed for her contribution to warming?
But of course:
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It has been a subject of debate for years: How much has global warming contributed to a documented rise in temperatures along the West Coast? A new study published Monday in a major research journal suggests the answer thus far, particularly in the Northwest, is: hardly any.
An average coastal temperature increase of 1 degree Celsius since 1900 along the West Coast appears more likely to be the result of changes in winds and air circulation over the eastern Pacific Ocean, two former University of Washington scientists found.
And the researchers said they could find no evidence that those weather patterns were being influenced by human greenhouse-gas emissions.
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“It was a big eye-opener,” Johnstone said. “The winds have changed in a manner that explains virtually all of the coastal ocean warming. The winds appear to decide it all.”
But of course:
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Both authors were quick to point out that their study does not in any way refute that temperatures globally are on the rise or that humans are responsible for that trend.
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:10 am to weagle99
EUREKA!!! 
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:19 am to weagle99
quote:Wheeeew!
Both authors were quick to point out that their study does not in any way refute that temperatures globally are on the rise or that humans are responsible for that trend.
Thank goodness they issued the disclaimer.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 7:22 am to NC_Tigah
You can bet they tried REAL hard, but maybe these gents still have a shred of integrity.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 8:28 am to weagle99
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An average coastal temperature increase of 1 degree Celsius since 1900
Those motherfrickers could not have had as accurate thermometers back then and now we are still talking about one degree in 114 years?
Where did I park my car, I'm outta here!
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:35 am to weagle99
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It was a big eye-opener
Only for the close-minded.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:46 am to weagle99
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Both authors were quick to point out that their study does not in any way refute that temperatures globally are on the rise or that humans are responsible for that trend.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 9:59 am to weagle99
Interesting article. The quoted comments of the scientists were what I found most intriguing. In a manner I consider consistent with good science, the commenters questioned whether the data from the early 20th century was sound and whether the study was sufficiently "robust." However, you don't see nearly as much of that that when they refer to the overall phenonmenon of human-driven global warming.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:03 am to weagle99
All warming factors are "natural". Human activity is as natural as the migrations of wildebeests or prairie dogs digging tunnels.
The sole source of energy in the solar system is the sun.
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant - it is a naturally occurring, albeit trace gas, that is required to sustain life on this planet.
Carbon dioxide increases trail temperature increases in the record, not lead them, ergo, they CANNOT be causing warming (although I don't deny these concetrations have the potential to amplify warming).
Making critical, globally economic decisions that will result in the death, by starvation, of millions of people, based on 150 years of temperature records to avoid MAYBE a few tenths of a degree of warming continues to be the most ludicrous public policy campaign I have ever witnessed - and the goal is simply to centralize control of the production of energy on this planet (and therefore economic resources, because the latter is the most reliable proxy for the former.)
The sole source of energy in the solar system is the sun.
Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant - it is a naturally occurring, albeit trace gas, that is required to sustain life on this planet.
Carbon dioxide increases trail temperature increases in the record, not lead them, ergo, they CANNOT be causing warming (although I don't deny these concetrations have the potential to amplify warming).
Making critical, globally economic decisions that will result in the death, by starvation, of millions of people, based on 150 years of temperature records to avoid MAYBE a few tenths of a degree of warming continues to be the most ludicrous public policy campaign I have ever witnessed - and the goal is simply to centralize control of the production of energy on this planet (and therefore economic resources, because the latter is the most reliable proxy for the former.)
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:03 am to weagle99
Ok. How about the entire rest of the globe?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:30 am to udtiger
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It was a big eye-opener
Only for the close-minded.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 1:03 pm to Tigah in the ATL
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Ok. How about the entire rest of the globe
Idiot
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