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An article in the New Yorker explains what Putin is doing in Russia
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:11 am
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:11 am
Sorry but the linked article is very long but Putin is very complicated and can't be explained in 200 words, IMO. The writer does a great job describing Putin's (and Russia's) mentality. And by "great job" I mean he confirms what I've been telling everyone since my working days in Russia ended.
He also proves that Romney was correct in answering the infamous debate question about who the USA's biggest geo-political foe is.
The article also unknowingly, I think, describes the naivete of the Obama administration in dealing with Putin's Russia, including the silly "reset button" mentality.
Most of the article is based on interviews with former U.S. ambassador to Russia, Micahel McFaul.
"Watching the Eclipse"
Here's a sample from the article:
He also proves that Romney was correct in answering the infamous debate question about who the USA's biggest geo-political foe is.
The article also unknowingly, I think, describes the naivete of the Obama administration in dealing with Putin's Russia, including the silly "reset button" mentality.
Most of the article is based on interviews with former U.S. ambassador to Russia, Micahel McFaul.
"Watching the Eclipse"
Here's a sample from the article:
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In 2009, after Putin had ceded the Presidency to Medvedev, he hosted Obama at his country residence and lectured the U.S. President on the history of American deceptions.
It was an hour before Obama managed more than “hello.”
McFaul, who was at that meeting, said, “It was grossly inaccurate, but that is his theory of the world.”
Putin demanded that the U.S. cede to him the former Soviet republics—Ukraine above all—as a Russian sphere of influence.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:21 am to LSURussian
It just goes to show you that Putin has a strategy, Obama does not.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:54 am to LSURussian
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An article in the New Yorker explains what Putin is doing in Russia
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LSURussian
Im sorry comrade, I just can't take anything you post about Russia seriously... How do we know you aren't part of the ministry of disinformation
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/21/14 at 10:47 am to LSURussian
Russia and Putin should act in accord with the best interests of Russia, as should any wise nation.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 11:00 am to Champagne
The best interests of Russia would be democracy, rule of law and participation in international norms.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 11:44 am to Tigah in the ATL
I also see it that way.
What's your best guess as to why Putin disagrees with us?
What's your best guess as to why Putin disagrees with us?
Posted on 9/21/14 at 12:37 pm to LSURussian
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[Susan] Rice had already put in place a kind of shadow National Security Council for Democrats, with various foreign-policy mavens charged with heading up regional directorates. The group was later dubbed the Phoenix Initiative, a name intended to send the message that, in the wake of the Iraq War and the Bush Administration’s Vulcans, American foreign policy, under a Democratic President, would, like the mythical bird, rise from the ashes. Rice declared that the group’s thinking had broken free of the traditional clash in American foreign-policy thinking between realist power politics and liberal idealism.
It's an interesting peice. And it squares off much of article I posted the other day about the perception that Obama has a lack of desire to act as a superpower.
Thanks for posting that!
Posted on 9/21/14 at 1:11 pm to Champagne
Putin is turning his country to shite
Posted on 9/21/14 at 1:18 pm to notiger1997
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Putin is turning his country to shite
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Buoyed by the sharp rise in energy prices, Putin was able to do what Yeltsin had not: he won enormous popular support by paying salaries and pensions, eliminating budget deficits, and creating a growing urban middle class. It was hardly a secret that Putin had also created his own oligarchy, with old Leningrad pals and colleagues from the security forces now running, and robbing, the state’s vast energy enterprises. This almost unimaginably corrupt set of arrangements, which came to be known as Kremlin, Inc., outraged nearly everyone, but the relative atmosphere of stability, in which tens of millions of Russians enjoyed a sense of economic well-being and private liberty, provided Putin with a kind of authoritarian legitimacy.
Appease the "middle class" and political worries are few... scary to say, I see a lot of the same thing among American voters.
This...
quote:... sounds very familiar.
They were against the regime—that was the main thing, being against. This happens in lots of transitions: a coalition against Them. And then what they are for gets worked out in the post-revolutionary phase.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 9/21/14 at 1:36 pm to Taxing Authority
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... sounds very familiar.
Hope and change?
Yes We Can!
Posted on 9/21/14 at 1:39 pm to LSURussian
Russian, I firmly believe that Putin has a Napoleon complex. Do you agree?
Posted on 9/21/14 at 1:43 pm to Zach
Yes. He also wants to be remembered as the person who reassembled the Russian empire. It's a dangerous combination which I don't believe Obama thinks is happening. And even worse Putin knows Obama is outmatched and weak.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 9/21/14 at 2:52 pm to LSURussian
Good article. I find it interesting that Putin and others hold similar view on bankers and certain interests that conspiracy theorists are ridiculed for in US.
This post was edited on 9/21/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 9/21/14 at 7:01 pm to Champagne
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Russia and Putin should act in accord with the best interests of Russia, as should any wise nation.
I don't believe Putin's vision for Russia is in the best interest of the Russian people.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 7:57 pm to Tigah in the ATL
You really feel that's what's in the best interest for Russia? He has a perfect example in the USA as to why it is not. Putin is old school KGB/Red Army and has seen what a republic gets you.
Why are Canada and the US scrambling fighters to intercept Russian planes? The US is posturing as a defensive nation instead of an offensive nation imposing it's will on the world. Putin knows all of this. He knows as goes the US as goes NATO/UN/Eropean Union....
Obama===Putin bitch!!!
Welcome to the libtard, special interest, welfare, peace love dope world you libtards created
Why are Canada and the US scrambling fighters to intercept Russian planes? The US is posturing as a defensive nation instead of an offensive nation imposing it's will on the world. Putin knows all of this. He knows as goes the US as goes NATO/UN/Eropean Union....
Obama===Putin bitch!!!
Welcome to the libtard, special interest, welfare, peace love dope world you libtards created
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:03 pm to kywildcatfanone
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It just goes to show you that Putin has a strategy, Obama does not.
I don't know about that. Russia is on the decline, thanks to Putin.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:10 pm to Asgard Device
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Russia is on the decline, thanks to Putin.
Was Russia getting stronger before Vlad?
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:14 pm to Asgard Device
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Russia is on the decline
I would say their geography is increasing and not decreasing.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:27 pm to LSURussian
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Was Russia getting stronger before Vlad?
Russian markets have plummeted, their currency is at a record low, and free trade is greatly restricted. Corruption is somehow on the rise. They're going down from having 4 pillars to just 1 (oil.)
If you call that "stronger" then so be it. I guess that's your definition of good strategery. Seems reckless and harmful to Russia's middle class, to me.
Posted on 9/21/14 at 8:43 pm to LSURussian
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It was an hour before Obama managed more than “hello.”
It reminds me of Netanyahu a couple of years ago, but his lecture didn't take place in Tel Aviv, it took place in the White House.
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Putin demanded that the U.S. cede to him the former Soviet republics—Ukraine above all—as a Russian sphere of influence
He gave W this same lecture when he was in office.
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In April 2008, NATO held a summit in Bucharest where the issue of Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO was raised. While speaking during a closed meeting, Putin threatened that if Georgia joined NATO, Russia would be forced to create a buffer zone in between them, while Ukraine would simply "cease to exist."
Although NATO refused to admit Georgia and Ukraine at the 2008 summit, then-U.S. President George W. Bush's administration introduced a guarantee that both countries would one day become NATO members.
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