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Is this why felons shouldn't own guns?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:54 pm
Man kills daughter, 6 grandchildren in small Fla. town
From the article:
From the article:
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According to the Orlando Sentinel, Spirit was sentenced to three years in prison in 2003 after he accidentally shot his 8-year-old son to death in a 2001 hunting accident. Spirit took a plea deal for felony firearms violation, according to the Orlando Sentinel.
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:56 pm to mmcgrath
He can't legally own one... doesn't mean he can't obtain one illegally.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:56 pm to mmcgrath
But he DEFINITELY should be allowed to vote.
Of course, he'll be voting Democrat for the next few elections.
Of course, he'll be voting Democrat for the next few elections.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:02 pm to udtiger
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Of course, he'll be voting Democrat for the next few elections.
Well... he is a corpse now, so... yeah.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:12 pm to mmcgrath
I'm not getting your point here.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:19 pm to mmcgrath
No. That's not why. And it's a great example of why gun control is a joke. Felons by definiton don't follow laws.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:57 pm to McLemore
Felons should be allowed guns.
Should felons not be allowed freedom of speech?
Should felons not be allowed freedom of speech?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:01 pm to mmcgrath
Nope. It's why responsible people should.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:02 pm to mmcgrath
I assume this made more sense in your head.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:37 am to McLemore
quote:"Felons" by definition includes people who were at one time convicted of a felony but may or may not have served their time.
No. That's not why. And it's a great example of why gun control is a joke. Felons by definiton don't follow laws.
By definition, not all "felons" disobey laws.
This post was edited on 9/19/14 at 12:38 am
Posted on 9/19/14 at 12:48 am to mmcgrath
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Is this why felons shouldn't own guns?
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shot and killed
Law fail?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:25 am to Sellecks Moustache
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I'm not getting your point here
Posted on 9/19/14 at 7:30 am to mmcgrath
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By definition, not all "felons" disobey laws.
By definition, felons are called felons for breaking a law.
Again, i know you want to exploit this for your sake of banning all guns. But i'm wondering, there are billions of guns in the U.S.
Not a single gun, by itself, has killed a person. People commit crimes, guns do not. Guns are inanimate object incapable of murder. Yet you retards on the left think by making guns illegal, then all murder will stop. Guess what genius, murder is illegal. Yet it still happens. I guess we need another law against murder, right?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:33 am to mmcgrath
I know you think you are making some salient point--not even close.
In rare instances is a felon a respecter of laws. I will grant you that the war on drugs totally skews this analysis. Unless you're just a disingenuous prig you will grant that a convicted felon likely has no problem disregarding gun laws.
Your pendantic sophistry should embarrass you.
In rare instances is a felon a respecter of laws. I will grant you that the war on drugs totally skews this analysis. Unless you're just a disingenuous prig you will grant that a convicted felon likely has no problem disregarding gun laws.
Your pendantic sophistry should embarrass you.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:45 am to mmcgrath
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By definition, not all "felons" disobey laws
WTF? Cite an example where one can become a felon without breaking a law?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:47 am to mmcgrath
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This is not the first time that Spirit has allegedly harmed his family with firearms.
Media reports indicate that Spirit accidentally shot and killed an 8-year-old son, Kyle, during a hunting trip to Three Lakes Wildlife Management Area near Kenansville, Fla., on Nov. 14, 2001
Looks to me like it's a fail on the judicial system more than anything.
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It is illegal for felons to own guns in Florida.
In 1998, Spirit was convicted of felony possession of marijuana, according to published reports.
And it also seems.. a law didn't stop him.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:52 am to Slinger16
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He can't legally own one... doesn't mean he can't obtain one illegally.
no but it still makes it harder to get one.
And if any point he is stopped and they find a gun on him he goes back to jail.
So lets not give them their gun rights back, simply because they can break the law.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:53 am to Stingray
I think the blanket "It's illegal for a felon to own a gun" is ridiculous. Not all felons committed a violent/gun related crime. I know a woman who had a personal business in her name and her husband embezzled money and did not pay taxes. She was convicted of tax evasion. Whether or not she had any knowledge I don't know, but you really think this woman should not own a gun because of a blanket law?
Posted on 9/19/14 at 8:53 am to SammyTiger
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no but it still makes it harder to get one.
No it doesn't.
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And if any point he is stopped and they find a gun on him he goes back to jail.
Worked really well in 2001, eh?
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So lets not give them their gun rights back, simply because they can break the law.
So can nonfelons. If you've paid your debt by serving your sentence. You've paid your debt and all rights should be returned. If you're that dangerous that you can have your Constitutional Rights, then you should remain in jail.
Posted on 9/19/14 at 9:23 am to Slinger16
quote:The main problem is that a number of people think that felons should be legally able to get a gun the day that they leave jail. See Alahunter post above.
He can't legally own one... doesn't mean he can't obtain one illegally.
On a related note, it is obviously way too easy for a felon to get a gun illegally. Private sales aren't reported. Without a solidly enforced gun registration law criminals will always find it easy to get a gun.
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