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How reliable do you consider testimony given because of a plea agreement
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:59 am
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:59 am
I was thinking about this while reading the death penalty thread, but thought i deserved it's own discussion.
If i was on a jury i would view plea agreement testimony the same as if i was told that the witness was being paid to testify. The only difference is that the witness is being paid with less jail time instead of money. This person has already admitted to committing a criminal act (which may of may or may not be the case with the defendant). They have a real motive to lie and say whatever the prosecution wants them to say.
Basically, i wouldn't trust any testimony given by such a witness unless backed by indisputable evidence.
If i was on a jury i would view plea agreement testimony the same as if i was told that the witness was being paid to testify. The only difference is that the witness is being paid with less jail time instead of money. This person has already admitted to committing a criminal act (which may of may or may not be the case with the defendant). They have a real motive to lie and say whatever the prosecution wants them to say.
Basically, i wouldn't trust any testimony given by such a witness unless backed by indisputable evidence.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 12:17 pm
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Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:00 am to Wolf
i want you on my criminal juries
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:00 am to Wolf
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payed
paid
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:02 am to Wolf
I find them as reliable as the officer who is placed on the stand to testify for the prosecution.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:03 am to Wolf
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i wouldn't trust any testimony given by such a witness unless backed by indisputable evidence.
as a juror, would you be aware that a plea deal agreement is in place?
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:03 am to Displaced
But I'm a good boy and I've learnt my lesson
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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i want you on my criminal juries
I wouldn't trust it either unless there was corroborating evidence or the statements reveal details the witness couldn't have known but for the defendant telling him. The "he said he did it" kind of stuff seems worthless to me
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:04 am to Wolf
If I was a juror, I would assign little to no weight to their testimony.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:05 am to Chad504boy
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s a juror, would you be aware that a plea deal agreement is in place?
You should be. If you don't, someone is gonna scream Brady.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:05 am to SabiDojo
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I find them as reliable as the officer who is placed on the stand to testify for the prosecution.
cops are the biggest purjurers in the system, the lying on the stand commences when their lips begin to move
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:07 am to 777Tiger
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cops are the biggest purjurers in the system, the lying on the stand commences when their lips begin to move
It begins when they write up their police reports.
"Suspect's eyes were bloodshoot; slurred speech; odor of alcohol emanating from the vehicle."
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:07 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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statements reveal details the witness couldn't have known but for the defendant telling him
And even then...they could still give said details and provide false testimony for the benefit of the prosecution
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:09 am to SabiDojo
the only thing in the US more constant than the black voting bloc voting DEM is this:
it's a national epidemic
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"Suspect's eyes were bloodshoot; slurred speech; odor of alcohol emanating from the vehicle."
it's a national epidemic
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:09 am to SabiDojo
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"Suspect's eyes were bloodshoot; slurred speech; odor of alcohol emanating from the vehicle."
that phrase has to be taught in their initial training, they should just get a rubber stamp for it, it's on every report I've ever seen regarding a DUI charge
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:11 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:17 am to SabiDojo
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It begins when they write up their police reports.
"Suspect's eyes were bloodshoot; slurred speech; odor of alcohol emanating from the vehicle."
I was a witness to a false arrest (non-DUI). Saw the entire interaction from the time the individual began speaking with the police to the time they were put in the vehicle.
There were 9 sentences in the report describing this incident. 8 of the 9 were falsified and/or exaggerated.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 11:27 am to Golfer
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I was a witness to a false arrest (non-DUI). Saw the entire interaction from the time the individual began speaking with the police to the time they were put in the vehicle.
There were 9 sentences in the report describing this incident. 8 of the 9 were falsified and/or exaggerated.
You can't help but roll your eyes whenever you see the same cop writes the almost exact same thing in every police report.
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