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Army Times: Women invited to apply for Ranger School

Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 3:58 pm
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The Army is looking for female soldiers who want to volunteer to attend Ranger school.

The call-out is part of the Army’s ongoing effort to determine whether and how to open combat arms military occupational specialties to women.

Senior Army leaders are expected to decide in January if they want to move forward with this one-time, integrated Ranger school assessment. If the assessment moves forward, it likely will take place in the spring, and the Army will need volunteers already in place and ready to go, officials said Friday.

If the assessment takes place, it will be a first for the storied Ranger school, which until now has been open only to men.

“Right now we’re going through the deliberate planning process, identifying volunteers, and selecting them over the next few months,” said Lt. Col. Alayne Conway, an Army spokeswoman. “In January, we’ll determine the feasibility of conducting an assessment of the Ranger course in the spring of 2015.”

As part of this potential assessment, the Army is seeking two groups of volunteers, as outlined in two separate All-Army Activity messages.

First, the Army is seeking female soldiers who want to attend Ranger school as students. Women in the ranks of specialist through major can apply. They must meet the physical qualifications and prerequisites required to attend Ranger School.

If selected, female volunteers who successfully complete and graduate from Ranger school will receive a graduation certificate and be awarded and authorized to wear the Ranger tab. However, pending future decisions about whether women will be allowed to serve in combat arms MOSs, they will not receive the associated Ranger skill identifiers or be assigned to Ranger coded units or positions.

Second, female soldiers can volunteer to serve as observers and advisors to the Airborne and Ranger Training Brigade. These slots are open to staff sergeants through master sergeants, chief warrant officers 2 and 3, and first lieutenants through majors.

These volunteers will not be Ranger instructors, and they won’t evaluate students in the course.


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Posted by UGATiger26
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:00 pm to
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if they want to move forward with this one-time, integrated Ranger school assessment.


I would hope
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:01 pm to
Women soldiers
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:02 pm to
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I would hope


My opinion? It will eventually be permanently opened to all qualified female applicants.
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:02 pm to
Nothing ISIS fears more than a squad of female Rangers all with PMS at the same time. Scorched Earth.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:04 pm to
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Women soldiers
IDF says hi
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:05 pm to
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IDF says hi




I want those ladies to say hi, to my penis
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:07 pm to
I didn't think it was possible. The Army found a way to make Ranger School suck even more.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:12 pm to
If they can meet the male standard I am all for it

but we know that ant happening.
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:39 pm to
so they couldn't make the marines infantry training so lets send them to ranger school... that makes a lot of sense.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:43 pm to
I highly doubt they make it

But good luck to them
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:44 pm to
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IDF says hi


One single integrated battalion that is flung out on the Sinai and has never seen combat doesn't count.

I'd be very surprised if any of these women even got out of the PT test, much less the first week.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:45 pm to
This is going to turn out badly for some people.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:51 pm to
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IDF says hi



Interestingly enough, the 2 organizations with (by far) the highest volume experience with women in combat, the IDF and the Russian Army (as the de facto successor to the Red Army of the Soviet Union) don't do it anymore (at least, not to any significant degree).

Why do you suppose that is?

It is not because women are inferior, by the way.

It is just the tradeoffs a society makes to put women - not in uniform (some of my best subordinates and superiors have been female - I haven't had so much luck with female peers, but I'm sure that's an anomaly) mind you, but in combat are just not worth the exchange.

Most American males are not really cut out for combat - of those that aren't, probably only a small percentage can be "whipped" into shape. That does not bode well for the future.

The percentage of American women who are cut out for combat on the modern battlefield is statistically insignificant. It is unfortunate. It's sexist. But it doesn't make it not true.
Posted by JazzyJeff
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:05 pm to
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It is not because women are inferior, by the way.
Actually...they are. When it comes to physical strength that is.
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The percentage of American women who are cut out for combat on the modern battlefield is statistically insignificant. It is unfortunate. It's sexist. But it doesn't make it not true.
How is this even remotely sexist? I find it very telling that you would label a statement (true by the way) that you made as sexist. What a pussed out douche you are. But the feminist love you!
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:07 pm to
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How is this even remotely sexist?


Because it makes a judgment based on gender.

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I find it very telling that you would label a statement (true by the way) that you made as sexist.


I was just trying to be intellectually honest.

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What a pussed out douche you are.


frick you in the ear, brah - seriously.

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But the feminist love you!


Not so much. I've flipped Mrs. Midnight and now she's a chauvinist pig.
Posted by JazzyJeff
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Because it makes a judgment based on gender.
Sexism is a pejorative term and saying women are inferior in some ways is not sexism...it's truth.
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I was just trying to be intellectually honest.
Nice try but you turned out looking like a sensitive little man bitch.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 5:17 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:22 pm to
Not a single fricking one will ever pass. I will literally bet my first born on it.


Unless of course she receives special treatment and lower standards
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:24 pm to
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If they can meet the male standard I am all for it 



You shouldn't be. You should know better SCH
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:24 pm to
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Not a single fricking one will ever pass.


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Unless of course she receives special treatment and lower standards



Bingo.
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