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Manual or automatic tranny in a 4WD?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Since the manual transmission seems to be going the way of the dinosaur, I was wondering which transmission most of yall prefer. My old CJ5 had an 8 speed manual and so does my old workhorse Ram 1500. I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice. I have more "control" and a better "feel" for the terrain in a manual than I have in an automatic. Plus, to me, a manual in off road conditions seems to have better traction. I wonder if, in a test, identical trucks, same driver, same setup, same tires, which vehicle would have better traction: auto or manual. I could be wrong, been wrong lots of times, but I'm putting my money on the manual.
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Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:25 am to BFIV
I'd get a manual but bridges scare me
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:36 am to BFIV
I have had both in newer jeep wranglers - preferred the auto, much easier to hill climb with 2 pedals than 3.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:39 am to BFIV
Auto's are so good now I'd take an auto 9 times out of 9
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:26 am to KingRanch
Auto only. Manuals will get you stuck a lot easy.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:34 am to BFIV
I don't really go looking for trails to tear up. Off roading I do is pretty much whatever it takes to take care of a few things on my land or at the camp. I need decent clearance, good tires, and four wheel drive. I prefer an automatic for off roading - especially if it involves towing.
The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control. I think Jeep's Grand Cherokee and most Land Cruisers have that as well. It seems to eliminate the drawback of an automatic for most practical off road stituations - especially with a trailer in tow.
20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing. My Silverado can also start off in 2nd gear with the automatic if I'm worried about breaking traction, I'm almost certain that the Fords and Toyotas do that as well.
I don't see as much of an advantage of a manual anymore these days.
The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control. I think Jeep's Grand Cherokee and most Land Cruisers have that as well. It seems to eliminate the drawback of an automatic for most practical off road stituations - especially with a trailer in tow.
20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing. My Silverado can also start off in 2nd gear with the automatic if I'm worried about breaking traction, I'm almost certain that the Fords and Toyotas do that as well.
I don't see as much of an advantage of a manual anymore these days.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:46 am to fishfighter
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Auto only. Manuals will get you stuck a lot easy.
This.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:50 am to FelicianaTigerfan
Can you even get a manual in trucks these days?
New autos are great. Pre 90's I'd get manual.
New autos are great. Pre 90's I'd get manual.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:51 am to BFIV
I love driving a manual and prefer towing with one.
If you want to break stuff, manual>auto
Otherwise, auto with a manual shift option is the shite.
If you want to break stuff, manual>auto
Otherwise, auto with a manual shift option is the shite.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:52 am to Nodust
Dodge diesels and toy trucks only
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:52 am to BFIV
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tranny
Unfortunately, this word no longer means "transmission."
But, to answer your question, manny.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:09 am to member12
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I don't really go looking for trails to tear up. Off roading I do is pretty much whatever it takes to take care of a few things on my land or at the camp. I need decent clearance, good tires, and four wheel drive
Same here. I'm not into rock climbing, hill climbing, etc. I just go off road on my land to get to my hunting land and to get firewood.
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The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control.
This is news to me. I'm old school, I guess. One of the reasons I feel that the manual was better for off roading is the fact that I can choose the gear that works best and I can gear down for those rough spots and steep road on my deer hunting land. I'm not into off roading for the sake of off roading. I have to cut firewood up on the mountain and haul it out. My deer hunting land is accessible only by foot, horseback, or a rough 4WD only trail. There are places that my friends' older autos just wouldn't go and/or they couldn't gear down to get down the hill without sliding or having to ride the brakes. They'd get stuck, but my old manual would just keep gettin on up or down the hill.
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20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing.
I guess that's my problem. 20 and 30 years ago, automatic transmissions just didn't and couldn't cut the mustard like the manuals did. Had no idea the new stuff had that sort of technology. Not being able to gear down to low range, first gear, going down a narrow one lane mountain road, with a full load of firewood caused me to ridicule and avoid automatic transmissions. I guess the technology really has improved? Just gotta see it myself, though, to truly believe it! Problem is that none of my friends with a nice, new technology truck are willing to take it up there and risk gettin it scratched or scuffed by a little brush limb. I believe in taking care of my equipment, but if I'm reluctant to use that equipment, why even have it in the first place?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:22 am to BFIV
New transmissions can be locked into the gear you want it in. Or at least highest gear you want it in selected.
Works well for towing.
Works well for towing.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:23 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Unfortunately, this word no longer means "transmission."
It don't? What DOES it mean, then? Oh, wait a minute. Nevermind. Dang...I hate gettin old. Even the words don't mean the same thing now they did 30 years ago...
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:25 am to BFIV
Being able to hold a gear is great. Shifting while trying to spin the tires in the mud is not. Some autos will hold a gear, but a lot of them shift regardless what you do to the stick. If you know what you're doing with a manual in the mud, it is fine. I choose manual because I don't go through long mud holes that require more than one gear
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:27 am to Hammertime
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Some autos will hold a gear, but a lot of them shift regardless what you do to the stick.
This, too.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:35 pm to BFIV
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Some autos will hold a gear, but a lot of them shift regardless what you do to the stick.
This, too.
This tranny thread is getting wierder by the post.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:39 pm to BFIV
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BFIV
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I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice.
your old school like that.. not I, sir.. no way
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old workhorse Ram 1500
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Dodge diesels and toy trucks only
downshift=
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:58 pm to aVatiger
I'm changing my handle to "flooritsoitwillhopefullydownshift"
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