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My thoughts about the ISIS conflict and how Obama should handle it
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:17 pm
You can’t defeat ISIS if they have the support and funding of the major Sunni states. Winning in that case is just not possible, unless we are ready to exterminate 20 million Sunni’s or other religious groups in Iraq. That's a war of religious extermination.
I believe that the Sunni states, at least the rulers are willing to cooperate, if in return they get some assurance that somehow Asad be removed and the ensuing so-called, democracy in Syria will lead to a majority sunni state, opposite to the one in Iraq...so it's actually the same issue in both countries.
The best outcome for Syria is a future regime just like the Sissi’s of Egypt.
very complicated religious war.
How do you see it?
I believe that the Sunni states, at least the rulers are willing to cooperate, if in return they get some assurance that somehow Asad be removed and the ensuing so-called, democracy in Syria will lead to a majority sunni state, opposite to the one in Iraq...so it's actually the same issue in both countries.
The best outcome for Syria is a future regime just like the Sissi’s of Egypt.
very complicated religious war.
How do you see it?
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:21 pm to Northwestern tiger
So we get out of a ground war against ISIS, cause Sunnis will fight, and in trade, we fight a ground war in Syria? Cause that is what it would take right?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:25 pm to Stingray
I don't know
Maybe not even a war, just political decisions agreed upon by nations like Russia and the US
Maybe not even a war, just political decisions agreed upon by nations like Russia and the US
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:41 pm to Northwestern tiger
Obama and his entire administration are not capable of "handling" this current issue. History has proved this time after time after time with this bunch. The outcome is not going to be favorable with this group leading the free world, IMO.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:41 pm to Northwestern tiger
I'm torn. If 25% of what we see/hear about ISIS is accurate, they need to be wiped off of the face of the Earth.
Having said that, I don't think we can do it in this day and age. Our enemies have learned to exploit our aversion to collateral damage. They will not make themselves available as targets for large scale bombings. We won't be able to effectively destroy them from the air. We are not going to put a large ground force in and even if we did, same thing.
Having said that, I don't think we can do it in this day and age. Our enemies have learned to exploit our aversion to collateral damage. They will not make themselves available as targets for large scale bombings. We won't be able to effectively destroy them from the air. We are not going to put a large ground force in and even if we did, same thing.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:49 pm to Northwestern tiger
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I don't know Maybe not even a war, just political decisions agreed upon by nations like Russia and the US
What do we trade Russia in order to give up their ally Assad? Ukraine?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:53 pm to Northwestern tiger
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How do you see it?
Either fight it to win it, ie, a massive bombing campaign that levels entire cities disregarding collateral damage, or don't fight at all.
The only rational way to approach war, IMO. This limited war stuff is insane.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:56 pm to Scoop
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I'm torn. If 25% of what we see/hear about ISIS is accurate, they need to be wiped off of the face of the Earth
I see your point about ISIS, but even the shias are now are starting to do similar things to the Sunnis in Iraq.
I watched frontline last nigh. It was about Nigeria and Boko haram, the savageness of book haram but also the nigerian government torture and beheadings of mostly muslims civilians suspected of being book haram, thousands of them.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 7:56 pm to Stingray
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Either fight it to win it
Win what? what's the prize?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:00 pm to Northwestern tiger
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Win what? what's the prize?
Your respect
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:04 pm to Northwestern tiger
25 B 52s, bomb Syria, Iran and Iraq until it is as flat as La.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:05 pm to Stingray
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Your respect
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