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Make tax code friendlier to stop business inversion? Surely you jest

Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:16 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:16 am
No link because it came across CBS News radio a few minutes ago. The Dept of Treasury's answer to slowing down the rate of US companies moving over sees is to impose new penalties in a punitive manner. Spokesman for DoT stated in the blurb they can act while 'waiting for Congress.'

Never a thought as to why these companies are leaving and how to make the US a more business friendly environment, apparently.

All money belongs to government.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14477 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:18 am to
Haven't you heard? Competitive tax structures are unpatriotic.

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:22 am to
Buncha damn extremists..........
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51461 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:23 am to
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The Dept of Treasury's answer to slowing down the rate of US companies moving over sees is to impose new penalties in a punitive manner. Spokesman for DoT stated in the blurb they can act while 'waiting for Congress.'


Proof that the administration has a truly piss-poor grasp on how the market works.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:30 am to
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Proof that the administration has a truly piss-poor grasp on how the market works.

While I agree with this statement, what other administration tried to fix the corporate tax structure?
Posted by fontell
Montgomery
Member since Sep 2006
4445 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:37 am to
Raise stamp prices
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
6698 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:40 am to
Fitty cent!!!!
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:43 am to
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While I agree with this statement, what other administration tried to fix the corporate tax structure?




Reagan did in 1986. Raised corporate taxes and decreased the tax base.

People complain about the "49%" who don't pay any federal taxes, but that is mostly due to the GOP who were the ones who wanted it that way in the first place.

Also, the GOP was able to successfully shift income to the top 1% rather dramatically in just one year. Their 1986 reform package did a lot to get us to where we are now in that regard when it shifted 5.1% of all U.S. income to the top 1%.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:46 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:45 am to
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Reagan did in 1986. Raised corporate taxes and decreased the tax base.

That was actually my point. Reagan also raised the top individual income tax rate too.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:46 am to
Yeah, GOP backers often do not know what they are talking about with their own party and taxes. Especially when talking about the 49% that don't pay anything. Probably wouldn't be that way if the GOP had not dropped the lower tax brackets in the first place.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:48 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:52 am to
I'm a Conservative but shudder when people talk like Reagan is the be-all, end-all Conservative.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48009 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:53 am to
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Reagan did in 1986. Raised corporate taxes and decreased the tax base.




Either ignorant or disingenuous. Which is it?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 11:58 am to
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Reagan did in 1986. Raised corporate taxes and decreased the tax base.
False.

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People complain about the "49%" who don't pay any federal taxes, but that is mostly due to the GOP
True. Bush gave a HUGE tax cut to the lower and middle class. Oddly, it's always framed as tax cuts for "the rich". Its an outright lie.

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Also, the GOP was able to successfully shift income to the top 1% rather dramatically in just one year. Their 1986 reform package did a lot to get us to where we are now in that regard when it shifted 5.1% of all U.S. income to the top 1%.
No.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:00 pm to
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quote:Also, the GOP was able to successfully shift income to the top 1% rather dramatically in just one year. Their 1986 reform package did a lot to get us to where we are now in that regard when it shifted 5.1% of all U.S. income to the top 1%. No.


Not just one year, but most of it was in one year after the 1986 reform.
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True. Bush gave a HUGE tax cut to the lower and middle class.


Yep. 2001. Want to complain about the 49%, blame Bush.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:01 pm to
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Not just one year, but most of it was in one year after the 1986 reform.
Dude... you might want to learn something about how AGI was determined in those years.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:03 pm to
You going to disagree with me saying US income was shifted 5.1% under Reagan to the top 1%?

Is that what those little pictures mean?
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Yep. 2001. Want to complain about the 49%, blame Bush.
I do. But to be fair, I don't hear many democrats calling for tax increase for the poor and middle class.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:04 pm to
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I do. But to be fair, I don't hear many democrats calling for tax increase for the poor and middle class.


Don't know if you consider me a Dem or not but, present and complaining.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Don't know if you consider me a Dem or not
I try not to presume what others believe, unless, they say so. Not that it matters. It's not R-D anymore. It's government v. citizens. This is a great example, tho.

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but, present and complaining.
What office do you hold?

Our tax code is the ultimate example of tyranny of the majority. No one pays a "fair share". The majority pays too little. And a slim majority pays almost the entire bill. It's sad really.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:09 pm to
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. Not that it matters. It's not R-D anymore. It's government v. citizens.


thank god others see it too....
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