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Any Fox sxs shotgun fans? Looks at this one coming up for auction.

Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:07 pm
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W.H.G. and the date 1912 on the receiver, this extraordinary A.H. Fox double barrel set bears the signatures of two of the top men in the Hartford engraving game of the early 20th century. Both Rudolph J. Kornbrath and William H. Gough were second generation gun engravers, Kornbrath hailing from Ferlach, Austria and Gough from Birmingham, with both making their way to the United States to ply their trade. Both men were on the rolls of Colt's engravers during the time in question as independent engravers; Kornbrath was taking both private and corporate commissions, and Gough was moonlighting as a freelance engraver while also serving as Ansley Fox's in-house engraving foreman. Responsible for a full redesign of Fox's engraving patterns at that time, Gough supervised a staff of up to 20 engravers, only putting tool to steel with his own hands for the best of the best of Fox's output, and this shotgun set certainly qualifies.



















Posted by DLauw
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:15 pm to
beautiful

what is a specimen like that going to pull in an auction? 25k? 50k? ?
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:17 pm to
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what is a specimen like that going to pull in an auction? 25k? 50k? ?



Estimated Price: $150,000 - $280,000
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by DLauw
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6086 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:20 pm to
wow.

so umm, i was a bit off and should just steer clear and stick to the little podunk auctions i attend.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:20 pm to
Wouldn't buy even if I could afford that.

Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:22 pm to
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wow.

so umm, i was a bit off and should just steer clear and stick to the little podunk auctions i attend.


One of the reason's for the high price is the history behind the gun. But there are questions, many questions... CSMC could build you a new Fox with better quality but all the engraving in the $60-$80k range I would imagine...
Posted by Bama and Beer
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:33 pm to
No shite. What a terrible waste of money

Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 3:37 pm to
Hey wick, a local auction house is having an online gun auction thought you might be interested

LINK
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:25 pm to
I will check it out if I am up there next week...


How about this one that has already closed...

1921 A.H. Fox 20 gauge XE

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According to J.T. Callahan, the Fox records indicate that this gun, SN 201509, a 20 gauge XE, was shipped on August 7, 1921 from Philadelphia to Abercrombie & Fitch of NYC, the original consignee. The gun was made with 26” barrels, choked IC (r) and M (l) with a LOP of 13 ½” and DOH of 2 5/8”. Weight, 5 lbs., 12 oz.

Factory notes indicate: “Full pistol grip, stock 13 ½” to center, 13 ¼” at toe, short toe for woman’s hand, Lyman sights, Silvers recoil pad.” It appears to be in original condition with in use wear. Recoil pad may have been replaced at some point in time. Bores are bright with no pitting. I don’t have barrel minimum thickness measurements, but gun was determined to be within specification by Jim Kelly of Darlington Gun Works. It has normal in use hunting wear and dings. The wood and checkering are sound. One trigger is lighter in pull than the other.

The shotgun has an engraved metal plate on the stock with the original owner’s name, H. N. Torrey. In 1924, Dr. Henry Norton Torrey and his wife, Nell Ford Torrey, of Detroit, Michigan, purchased Ossabaw Island, a 26,000 acre barrier island on Georgia’s coast near Savannah. The family owned the island until 1978 when the State of Georgia assumed ownership. Dr. Torrey was an avid outdoorsman, who hunted and fished around the world. Dr. Torrey died in 1945. The gun has been in the family since purchased by Dr. Torrey and has remained until recently on Ossabaw Island in the possession of Dr. Torrey’s daughter who lives on the Island.












Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:46 pm to
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No shite. What a terrible waste of money


You are thinking about it from a non-baller point of view. For certain incomes that amount is like you or I spending $1000 - 2500.
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
80867 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:49 pm to
I understand that but the guy that buys it says

"hey, come look at this shotgun, I paid so much for it, and it sits so nicely here in this case, and trust me I won't shoot it"

I would say, "dude, that's nice but your wife was much cheaper last night"

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:51 pm to
Something like that is an investment.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:52 pm to
Basically like spending a couple hundo thou on a painting. cause it ain't gonna be used.
Posted by mack the knife
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 4:52 pm to
you better shoot like a dead-eyed mo-fo showing up with a gun like that.
i saw a guy at hunter's run with a $100k perazi (spelling) once. he could SHOOT but not $100k type shoot.
Posted by Kato
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 5:03 pm to
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mack the knife


Great song!

I just found an auction for Teddy Roosevelt's Fox shotgun. Talk about some coin...

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The auction house conservatively estimates the gun will sell for $750,000 to $1 million.


LINK
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 5:05 pm to
Nice gun. I have a A.H. Fox Sterlingworth (Fox's "field grade" gun) that belonged to my Grandfather. The gun's 103 years old and I still shoot it occasionally.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 5:05 pm to
I didn't realize James Julia was auctioning that gun. The full catalog for the auction is not yet online, but I love looking at it when it is...
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45793 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 5:07 pm to
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Nice gun. I have a A.H. Fox Sterlingworth (Fox's "field grade" gun) that belonged to my Grandfather. The gun's 103 years old and I still shoot it occasionally.


As long as you a putting good shells through it there is no reason not to shoot it. I highly recommend the RST Shotgun Shells. The company is does mainly internet sales and ship direct to your home.
Posted by Kato
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 5:14 pm to
I've read his book from the year-long safari he took after his presidency that references this shotgun. It's called African Game Trails and it's a great read. I would absolutely love to own that gun!
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