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Should Holder Have Prosecuted the New Black Panthers for Placing a Bounty on GZ?

Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:22 am
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:22 am
I'm talking about the dead-or-alive bounty that the New Black Panthers placed on George Zimmerman in the aftermath of the Trayvon Martin shooting. To my knowledge, no other private individual or group had ever placed a dead-or-alive bounty on another private citizen and then publicly announced it. Certainly the Mafia and a few others have put out contracts on people, but these actions were 1) not made public, and 2) prosecuted to the full extent of the law when they were discovered.

Yet, AG Eric Holder did nothing when the New Black Panthers placed a dead-or-alive bounty on the head of George Zimmerman.

So, here's the question. Do you think Holder's failure to prosecute the New Black Panthers was warranted? If so, why?

Please be as specific as possible.

Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Do you think Holder's failure to prosecute the New Black Panthers was warranted?
Yes.
quote:

If so, why?
quote:

New Black Panthers
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32638 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:33 am to
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Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:46 am to
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Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:48 am to
Another race-based KCT thread. I'm moving up the O/U to 80%
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32638 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 9:49 am to
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Who exactly do you prosecute? You can't prosecute the group. You need a specific person.


Probably the guy who said it. Mikhail Muhammed (not his real name)

Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:02 am to
It's a legitimate issue, ommg, especially given Holder's announcement that he would be heading up the crucifixion....i mean, the investigation of the Ferguson Police Department. Sorry the subject is one you would rather avoid, but it speaks to Holder's motives, mindset, and character. Why would he ignore one obvious incident of a person's civil rights being violated (and I think you can throw the term hate crime in there, too); yet, Holder decides to investigate the FPD based on an incident where law enforcement apparently acted in an appropriate manner.

The truth is, our AG is a racist scumbag. He always has been. But, black racism is a taboo topic, isn't it, ommg?

As for "who would they have prosecuted," are you serious? That's why you have an investigation. At the very least, there is video of several members of the NBP talking about the dead-or-alive bounty, as well as video and photographs of several members putting up the dead-or-alive posters.

There would be plenty of people to prosecute in that case, but Eric Holder didn't care to do so. Wonder why?
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78824 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:09 am to
And since when has Holder and his cronies played without a stacked deck? This shouldn't surprise anyone b/c in order of importance:

black on white crime
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
10588 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

But, black racism is a taboo topic, isn't it, ommg?


quote:

Wonder why?

What I wonder is how you make it through the day with all these racial thoughts bouncing around the ol' noggin.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15604 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:27 am to
If Holder were forced to be consistent, then GZ should have probably been under FBI protection while a federal investigation was made.

But going back to Civics 101, the federal government had no business being involved in the Zimmerman case and shouldn't be involved in Ferguson.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23111 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:36 am to
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What I wonder is how you make it through the day with all these racial thoughts bouncing around the ol' noggin.


If the president and attorney General can do it, why would you think he can't?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64330 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Who exactly do you prosecute? You can't prosecute the group. You need a specific person.



So you've never heard of the RICO Act then I guess.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Who exactly do you prosecute? You can't prosecute the group. You need a specific person.

Would Holder have prosecuted the KKK if they did the same thing? Oh hell yeah.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 10:48 am to
Baiters gone bait.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48228 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:07 am to
quote:

But going back to Civics 101, the federal government had no business being involved in the Zimmerman case and shouldn't be involved in Ferguson.


I am not an expert in federal civil rights cases, but, you are not completely correct here.

There are three areas in which IMHO FedGov has a legitimate investigative interest:

1) G Zimmerman: investigate to determine probable cause of federal civil rights violation

2) Ferguson shooting: same as above

3) Ferguson Police Dept: investigate whether the lack of diversity in the police officer ranks violates some federal civil rights laws.

It's important for us all to keep in mind that FedGov and Holder do indeed have a role to play in these kinds of events.

I'm a political enemy of both Obama and Holder, and, I say this as their political enemy.

I believe that both Obama and Holder both deserve removal from office for some things that they have done in other areas.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:09 am to
Would he prsecute me and you if we put a bounty on Jesse Jackson? Or Travons' dad?
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81151 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:10 am to
I would agree that Holder is probably the worst part of the entire Obama administration.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51788 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:16 am to
? to Winston. Would you not agree that Holder acts on (and not act on) the things his boss would direct him to?
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34542 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

lack of diversity in the police officer ranks violates some federal civil rights laws


If mere 'lack of diversity' is a violation of someone's rights, this country is totally fricked.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48228 posts
Posted on 9/5/14 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Would he prsecute me and you if we put a bounty on Jesse Jackson? Or Travons' dad?



IMHO, yes. Any white person who did this would be endlessly prosecuted by FedGov, just to make sure that the offender was bankrupt from legal fees even if no conviction were attainable.

That's how they roll. They believe in persecuting their political enemies.
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