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Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:16 pm
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Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:17 pm to
I believe I don't understand.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:17 pm to
you been out on dirty sixth?
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:18 pm to
Haven't made it. Works been cray
Posted by C
Houston
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:26 pm to
Probably depends on what you mean by being gay. Having homosexual thoughts isn't likely a choice no more than having heterosexual thoughts is IMO. Acting on it is a choice.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:34 pm to
Agreed but there's no proof. I think you can develop a taste for anything though

Again, I don't think it's a choice but I don't know
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:37 pm to
Maybe it's a choice for some gay people and not for others
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

Being gay is not a choice


Correct.

I've seen and heard more than enough of the literally same testimony from homosexuals to believe that this is accurate. Human beings aren't the only animals that engage in homosexuality, dozens upon dozens of other animals engage in it as well. Just because it's not a mainstream norm and it being rare doesn't mean it's not natural.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58079 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:46 pm to
You must learn from experience that some people are different. Grew up with a guy who had two normal sisters and came from a normal family. We kind of assumed he was gay and by high school it was confirmed.

Have watched a young guy grow up with my daughter. He is in private school and has two very straight and normal sisters and one brother. Starting in Pre-K, he has been different. He has always been very expressive and the start of the theatre shows. Always hanging with the girls.

The family is very religious and has raised him like a normal kid, but it has been obvious for 6 years now that he is not normal.

He is gay and there is no denying it. The great thing is everyone accepts it and loves him. Unlike if he was at some shithole redneck school, he will be treated well and will have a great chance at having a good life as he gets older.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:47 pm to
That's just anecdotal and observational evidence. Not proof. My belief is based on the exact same but we don't know. This is geared towards the. "Science, duh. What are you a bible thumping redneck" crowd. people take a belief, present it as an irrefutable fact and then falsely claim it's scientific.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:51 pm to
Well you sure aren't born that way so which is it?

You're born to reproduce with the opposite sex. It's science and it's the whole point of a species whether human or other, non-asexual species of course.


And yes it is a choice. Don't give me the other animals do it crap. We have "the ability to reason" and that is what separates us from other animals.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Mattwells90
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

Just because it's not a mainstream norm and it being rare doesn't mean it's not natural.



I don't buy this argument that if some animals engage in homosexual behavior, that automatically labels homosexuality natural. Many animals eat each other and eat their own young. Would you argue it would be "natural" for humans to practice canabalism and eat their young? And before people say I'm comparing gays to cannibals, I'm not. I'm simply stating that because something occurs in animals doesn't make it natural.


quote:

Human beings aren't animals



FIFY.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:03 pm to
There is no hard and fast rule.

Some are born gay.

Some are driven to it due to some form of trauma from the opposite sex. I personally know three women who were molested or raped by their fathers/brothers.

Some just experiment and like it.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77914 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

You're born to reproduce with the opposite sex. It's science and it's the whole point of a species whether human or other, non-asexual species of course.


So there are no such thing as birth defects? Nature isn't perfect you know.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

This is geared towards the. "Science, duh. What are you a bible thumping redneck" crowd. people take a belief, present it as an irrefutable fact and then falsely claim it's scientific.
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Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:08 pm to
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Human beings aren't the only animals that engage in homosexuality, dozens upon dozens of other animals engage in it as well.


Yes and its considered abnormal behavior in the animal kingdom. People aren't born gay because people are not sexual until puberty.
This post was edited on 9/3/14 at 11:10 pm
Posted by Zed
Member since Feb 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:08 pm to
I know I really really don't want to suck a dick. I can't imagine wanting to unless the desire was inherently there. Why would a straight man make a choice to suck a dick? It's preposterous.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:12 pm to
You might as well have just posted the slate article

Proof
Not correlation and coincidence. Also no determining factor can be established. Hardly proof. I believe it is and I believe it will be proven, but for the time being that is far from it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

The study confirms previous reports, in particular that homosexuals have more maternal than paternal male homosexual relatives, that homosexual males are more often later-born than first-born and that they have more older brothers than older sisters.

A shotgun link approach. I'm not sure the studies say what you think they say.

Almost everything in human behavior is genetically "linked." Almost meaningless. I'm only being slightly hyperbolic.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
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18941 posts
Posted on 9/3/14 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Yes and its considered abnormal behavior in the animal kingdom.
By who, the animal 700 Club?
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