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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:54 am
Posted on 9/2/14 at 8:54 am
Gates to Obama: Stick it.
Despite a federal court order directing Microsoft to turn overseas-held email data to federal authorities, the software giant said Friday it will continue to withhold that information as it waits for the case to wind through the appeals process. The judge has now ordered both Microsoft and federal prosecutors to advise her how to proceed by next Friday, September 5.
Let there be no doubt that Microsoft's actions in this controversial case are customer-centric. The firm isn't just standing up to the US government on moral principles. It's now defying a federal court order.
Isn't standing up to the government and defying a court order one in the same?? LINK
Despite a federal court order directing Microsoft to turn overseas-held email data to federal authorities, the software giant said Friday it will continue to withhold that information as it waits for the case to wind through the appeals process. The judge has now ordered both Microsoft and federal prosecutors to advise her how to proceed by next Friday, September 5.
Let there be no doubt that Microsoft's actions in this controversial case are customer-centric. The firm isn't just standing up to the US government on moral principles. It's now defying a federal court order.
Isn't standing up to the government and defying a court order one in the same?? LINK
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/2/14 at 9:54 am to tigerpawl
I have no clue why people on this board and other conservatives shite on bill gates
he absolutely loathes the federal government, he is a great philanthropist, and he walks the walk when he says, "free markets solve 99% of all problems"
he absolutely loathes the federal government, he is a great philanthropist, and he walks the walk when he says, "free markets solve 99% of all problems"
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:00 am to tigerpawl
quote:
Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government
...how is this any different than Louis Lerner and the IRS "deleting" ...then finding ...and then ..."it's too onerous to retrieve".....email subpoenaed by congress?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:01 am to Jim Ignatowski
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...how is this any different than Louis Lerner and the IRS "deleting" ...then finding ...and then ..."it's too onerous to retrieve".....email subpoenaed by congress?
herp derp
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:10 am to jamboybarry
Bill Gates isn't a government employee. Damn, you really made that comparison?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:13 am to Jim Ignatowski
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...how is this any different than Louis Lerner and the IRS "deleting" ...then finding ...and then ..."it's too onerous to retrieve".....email subpoenaed by congress?
There is no deleting in this world..If it goes across the servers, there is a record. Microsoft, I would assume, could publish so many emails between government officials that it would make Lerner's shite look like a kids game.
Isn't it ironic that the one thing people thought made the more anonymous (the internet) is the thing that is recording every single keystroke from your personal computers?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:14 am to bamarep
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Bill Gates isn't a government employee.
...which makes the Louis Lerner/IRS refusal that much more an issue. This administration is a fricking joke. They want others to obey the law when they break laws at will!!
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:14 am to GeeOH
Gates supports income tax, though.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:15 am to bamarep
quote:exactly
Bill Gates isn't a government employee. Damn, you really made that comparison?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:27 am to WeeWee
Microsoft should just claim they are lost.
easy.
easy.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:52 am to DelU249
Posted on 9/2/14 at 10:59 am to Jim Ignatowski
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Bill Gates isn't a government employee.
He isn't even a Microsoft employee.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:05 am to SpidermanTUba
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He's unemployed?
Well, he stepped down as chairman of Microsoft this year. He has been transitioning to doing more work for his Foundation. You probably consider foundations "loopholes"....
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:06 am to BBONDS25
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You probably consider foundations "loopholes"....
In Tuba world, all work for glory of the State.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:14 am to DelU249
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he absolutely loathes the federal government,
Yep. He found out the hard way that if you don't lobby, the govt is going to come down on you. Pure extortion.
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:16 am to BBONDS25
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Well, he stepped down as chairman of Microsoft this year. He has been transitioning to doing more work for his Foundation. You probably consider foundations "loopholes"....
So he's between jobs?
Loopholes for what?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 11:16 am to CptBengal
quote:
In Tuba world, all work for glory of the State.
Which State?
Posted on 9/2/14 at 12:38 pm to SpidermanTUba
LINK
I don't know how to feel about MS, mainly because of that ^^ but then MS had this to say about PRISM:
LINK
Which doesn't seem to line up with:
Which is the real MS?
quote:
Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
• Secret files show scale of Silicon Valley co-operation on Prism
• Outlook.com encryption unlocked even before official launch
• Skype worked to enable Prism collection of video calls
• Company says it is legally compelled to comply
I don't know how to feel about MS, mainly because of that ^^ but then MS had this to say about PRISM:
quote:
“We provide customer data only when we receive a legally binding order or subpoena to do so, and never on a voluntary basis. In addition we only ever comply with orders for requests about specific accounts or identifiers. If the government has a broader voluntary national security program to gather customer data we don’t participate in it.”
LINK
Which doesn't seem to line up with:
quote:
• Microsoft helped the NSA to circumvent its encryption to address concerns that the agency would be unable to intercept web chats on the new Outlook.com portal;
• The agency already had pre-encryption stage access to email on Outlook.com, including Hotmail;
• The company worked with the FBI this year to allow the NSA easier access via Prism to its cloud storage service SkyDrive, which now has more than 250 million users worldwide;
• Microsoft also worked with the FBI's Data Intercept Unit to "understand" potential issues with a feature in Outlook.com that allows users to create email aliases;
• In July last year, nine months after Microsoft bought Skype, the NSA boasted that a new capability had tripled the amount of Skype video calls being collected through Prism;
• Material collected through Prism is routinely shared with the FBI and CIA, with one NSA document describing the program as a "team sport".
Which is the real MS?
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