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Crazy being judged as a professional.

Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:24 pm
In school you get a grade, so it's easy enough to judge your preparation. In the real world you give pitch or present the closing of the last job, only to be judged by procurement of more work. You could kill it and they just don't have the budget or are focusing a different direct and you fail on the same level of just being unprepared or not producing.

It's just an empty feeling when it's over since your judgement is still pending. If the contract comes in next fiscal year, you did great, if not...fail. Tough to make Cs as a professional.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:26 pm to
do better brah.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:26 pm to
"Stay here as long as you can. Cherish it. Cherish it."
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:26 pm to
Someone needs to read outliers.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:27 pm to
I might have.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

You could kill it and they just don't have the budget or are focusing a different direct and you fail on the same level of just being unprepared or not producing.

It's just an empty feeling when it's over since your judgement is still pending. If the contract comes in next fiscal year, you did great, if not...fail. Tough to make Cs as a professional.




how can you be judged on something that is out of your control
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
102962 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:28 pm to
you can't control results but you can control being prepared and creating as many opportunities as possible. nobody bats 1.000 but if you can get more ABs you can get more hits
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:29 pm to
How can you not? You either get the next project or you don't.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:30 pm to
if its not in the budget then it's not in the budget. It has nothing to do with your presentation or preparation.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:30 pm to
Yea? I never thought I'd be in business development, but I guess you aren't worth much if you aren't.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

if its not in the budget then it's not in the budget. It has nothing to do with your presentation or preparation.



Sure it does. If you provide enough value to your employer, they'll find a way to keep you.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Yea? I never thought I'd be in business development, but I guess you aren't worth much if you aren't.



Rule #1: Everyone is in sales.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Sure it does. If you provide enough value to your employer, they'll find a way to keep you.



are we talking about getting fired vs winning a contract or a bid?
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:33 pm to
You're talking about what.You're talking about... Bitching about that sale you shot, some sonofabitch who don't wanna buy land, some broad you're trying to screw, so forth. Let's talk about something important.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

are we talking about getting fired vs winning a contract or a bid?



Either way, if you provide enough value to your employer (or client) they'll find a way to keep you. But yes, I do understand that there are circumstances beyond the control of the OP at play. Which is why I suggested him reading outliers.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by TexasTiger01
Lake Houston
Member since Nov 2013
3215 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:34 pm to
Business development is tought at times man. No instant gratification for your efforts. Keep pushing
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38923 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:35 pm to
I'm not getting fired. I produced a small effort, <100 hrs total, document and pitched it to the customer today. My company wants it to turn into more work. If it does I was successful, if not I, and I'm sure my bosses, would consider it a great opportunity lost...and that's directly proportional to my performance.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:35 pm to
Let's talk about something important. Put. That coffee. Down. Coffee's for closers only. You think I'm fricking with you? I am not fricking with you. I'm here from downtown. I'm here from Mitch and Murray. And I'm here on a mission of mercy. Your name's Levine? You call yourself a salesman you son of a bitch?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:36 pm to
I've lost plenty of contracts and bids due to market and financial decision. Was out of my control, nothing I could have done could have saved the deal.......How does that make me a failure? It doesn't. I move on to the next one and keep that client in arms length so when the next deal comes along I'm right there back in the running.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/26/14 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

My company wants it to turn into more work. If it does I was successful, if not I, and I'm sure my bosses, would consider it a great opportunity lost...and that's directly proportional to my performance.



Welcome to my world. Or the world of anyone in Biz Dev/Sales.
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