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Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:32 am
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:34 am to Asgard Device
quote:I think you have it backwards. Funding was being withheld if they didn't raise the drinking age.
It's generally understood that highway funding was at risk if states didn't lower their drinking age to 18.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:35 am to Asgard Device
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It's generally understood that highway funding was at risk if states didn't lower their drinking age to 18.
shite I have been out of the US far too long if I missed this
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:36 am to Scruffy
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I think you have it backwards. Funding was being withheld if they didn't raise the drinking age.
Hah. Yeah, that was a typo. That's what I get for multi-tasking.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 12:38 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:39 am to Asgard Device
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However, does that really explain the fervor in which states enforce the laws?
I think all the dead people from 18 year old drunk drivers is probably the biggest motivational factor.
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Will the Feds pull highway funding if the state simply decides to turn the other cheek to those who sell alcohol to 18, 19, and 20 year olds?
Probably not. But it won't go un-noticed by the victims of drunken 18, 19, and 20 year old drivers, or their families. You can count on that.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:39 am to carbola
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shite I have been out of the US far too long if I missed this
Crap you've been gone about 30 fricking years then. Jeez. Where are you?
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 12:40 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:40 am to Asgard Device
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Will the Feds pull highway funding if the state simply decides to turn the other cheek to those who sell alcohol to 18, 19, and 20 year olds?
If not, then can we still use the Feds as an excuse as to why the drinking age is 21?
To answer your question they do this in Lafayette at certain bars that I used to frequent
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:41 am to SpidermanTUba
Chill out hoss, you missed the joke.
I would want to see a statistical analysis with under 21 drunk drivers with control variables for lack of access etc to see if they really are an abnormal contribution to drunk driving incidents
I would want to see a statistical analysis with under 21 drunk drivers with control variables for lack of access etc to see if they really are an abnormal contribution to drunk driving incidents
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 12:43 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:42 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:47 am to SpidermanTUba
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I think all the dead people from 18 year old drunk drivers is probably the biggest motivational factor.
I'm not sure what the snarky approach is about. I think you're just saying that, yes, the state would still have the law even if Federal funds were no longer tied to it?
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 12:52 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 12:51 am to SpidermanTUba
They should lower the drinking age to 16 and raise the driving age to 18.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:15 am to Asgard Device
Holding states hostage to federal funding paid by tax revenue collected from ordinary citizens is an obvious violation of the Tenth Amendment.
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 1:20 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:24 am to MaroonWhite
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Holding states hostage to federal funding paid by tax revenue collected from ordinary citizens is an obvious violation of the Tenth Amendment.
Held hostage? Do you think that the state wouldn't make the drinking age 21 on its own?
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 1:25 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:34 am to Asgard Device
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Held hostage? Do you think that the state wouldn't make the drinking age 21 on its own?
To be fair, that's an argument for his position more than it is against it.
But at this point, I'd wager they'd stay at 21 out of habit. Legislative inertia
This post was edited on 8/24/14 at 1:35 am
Posted on 8/24/14 at 1:36 am to MaroonWhite
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Holding states hostage to federal funding paid by tax revenue collected from ordinary citizens is an obvious violation of the Tenth Amendment.
Since when has the government cared about breaking a law or violating the constitution? Remember, they can throw you in jail, not the other way around.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 6:47 am to Asgard Device
Until '95, I think, it was legal for bars to sell alcohol to anyone between 18 & 21 but illegal for them to buy it. I was 20 when that was changed...
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:22 am to Scruffy
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I think you have it backwards. Funding was being withheld if they didn't raise the drinking age.
Same thing on the .08 BAC. Feds also forced that.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 8:54 am to wickowick
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Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:34 am to SpidermanTUba
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But it won't go un-noticed by the victims of drunken 18, 19, and 20 year old drivers, or their families. You can count on that.
Yeah, because prohibition on 18 to 20 year olds has done an excellent job of keeping them from drinking alcohol and driving. In fact it has worked so well that we should consider prohibiting the manufacturing and sale of alcohol to anyone in the U.S. Perhaps we should even add an amendment to the Constitution to truly make it the law of the land.
Posted on 8/24/14 at 9:37 am to Asgard Device
Feds audit those arrests too. Don't have enough, you get in trouble.
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