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serious advice on a boat
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:43 pm
I am thinking about getting a boat in the next year or so....I have minimal experience about how to drive one or care for one but I'm really interested in learning and using it.
I've been bank fishing for about a year and I want to get something that I can take out in the lakes or in the Gulf just off shore. a lot of people have been telling me not to do it but I got the same response whenever I put a pool in the house in I use it all the time so it hasn't been a hassle not sure how to split fact from fiction.
I've been bank fishing for about a year and I want to get something that I can take out in the lakes or in the Gulf just off shore. a lot of people have been telling me not to do it but I got the same response whenever I put a pool in the house in I use it all the time so it hasn't been a hassle not sure how to split fact from fiction.
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:44 pm to hansongrad
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.I have minimal experience about how to
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or in the Gulf just off shore.
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people have been telling me not to do it
in any case, what was your question again? Is Nautic Star bay boat an answer for said question?
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:45 pm to hansongrad
boats are great until they break down.
you what you're asking you need to look at a 21-22ft bay boat.
you what you're asking you need to look at a 21-22ft bay boat.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:46 pm to hansongrad
I have over 20 years experience on the water, and still am leery about heading offshore
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:47 pm to bbvdd
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boats are great until they break down.
That, and they are money pits. Truly.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:49 pm to hansongrad
Easy to learn to drive a boat, the hard part is having the knowledge of what to do when you get into a situation.
Boats cost money to operate besides just the gas, so be prepared to pay up, each year.
Do your research and purchase wisely. Used is far better than entry level. Also, It's not always about the engine, but everything else attached to the engine that define quality
Boats cost money to operate besides just the gas, so be prepared to pay up, each year.
Do your research and purchase wisely. Used is far better than entry level. Also, It's not always about the engine, but everything else attached to the engine that define quality
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:51 pm to hansongrad
Get a 22 foot bay boat, and keep it inshore. Offshore is a different animal and you need to go with people that have done it before you go it alone.
Also, figure 100 per foot per year as a bare abso-freaking-lute minimum to maintain a saltwater boat (pumps every year, 100 hour maintenance on the motors, wax, gel coat repair, radio repair, trailer repair, etc.)
Also, figure 100 per foot per year as a bare abso-freaking-lute minimum to maintain a saltwater boat (pumps every year, 100 hour maintenance on the motors, wax, gel coat repair, radio repair, trailer repair, etc.)
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:54 pm to hansongrad
You can learn how to handle the boat, but I wouldn't make to many runs too far out without experience. Especially in the gulf. I still wouldn't go offshore without someone with equal or more experience. Things can get dicey fast. But if you take it slow you will learn. Do not get too much boat too fast. Buy what you can handle and move up in 5 years once you get experienced.
The boat will cost money. I probably put 500-1000 into stuff for my boat each year. And that's not fuel. Just replacing bilge pumps and battery chargers. Putting in little add ons. You can do it for less, but that's what I spent. Things on boats break no matter how well you treat them, so just expect it.
The boat will cost money. I probably put 500-1000 into stuff for my boat each year. And that's not fuel. Just replacing bilge pumps and battery chargers. Putting in little add ons. You can do it for less, but that's what I spent. Things on boats break no matter how well you treat them, so just expect it.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:01 pm to hansongrad
You need a friend who has a boat. Make trips with him learn the basics from launching to driving to loading it up. Learn areas to go and not to go bead on tides and such. Def buy a used boat to start. Lots of info available online . Good Luck
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:08 pm to hansongrad
Most difficult part is learning the water. As far as offshore if you mean the first set of rigs on a slick calm day then a 22' bayboat would be fine but for routine trips you are in deep-v twin engine territory. I think a bay boat makes a good first boat and also will allow you to fish most areas without too much worry about draft and won't be a bear to handle.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:10 pm to hansongrad
Three letters, YAK. Remember, you have to yak before you can drive.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:12 pm to Spaceman Spiff
dont.....
Ok you need a 20-24 foot boat no cubby cabin despite what your wife will say, they are waste of space, she will rarely go anyway, and she can piss in the damn water like everyone else. Get open fisherman. U need to give us a price range? Ideally you would get a used 20 foot skiff or something with a motor under warranty.
Things to remember.
most of boat money is in the engine. hull may cost 5-10 k, motors 10-15k.
To go offshore u will really need a 200hp but can get buy with a 150 if u have too.
New boat owner, get seatow insurance
the wiring never works
the gas gauge never works
All epirbs do is save your life and you can rent them now. LINK
Trailers need a few 100 bucks up keep a year and you have to have bearing buddy and keep them lubed. (And the damn lights will be going off and on forever)
Carry an extra battery always
Always do a trip plan or tell someone where u r going text message is fine
Flares or worthless in the daytime. (No you cant ask why I know this)
Boats to avoid: Bayliners, etc
Engines to avoid: Any old Evinrude particularly Finct injection, Mercury optimax particularly 150,
Just learn from your own mistakes, and try not to make the same ones twice.
[b]As the saying goes if it flys, fricks, or floats, rent it don't buy it. [/b]
Ok you need a 20-24 foot boat no cubby cabin despite what your wife will say, they are waste of space, she will rarely go anyway, and she can piss in the damn water like everyone else. Get open fisherman. U need to give us a price range? Ideally you would get a used 20 foot skiff or something with a motor under warranty.
Things to remember.
most of boat money is in the engine. hull may cost 5-10 k, motors 10-15k.
To go offshore u will really need a 200hp but can get buy with a 150 if u have too.
New boat owner, get seatow insurance
the wiring never works
the gas gauge never works
All epirbs do is save your life and you can rent them now. LINK
Trailers need a few 100 bucks up keep a year and you have to have bearing buddy and keep them lubed. (And the damn lights will be going off and on forever)
Carry an extra battery always
Always do a trip plan or tell someone where u r going text message is fine
Flares or worthless in the daytime. (No you cant ask why I know this)
Boats to avoid: Bayliners, etc
Engines to avoid: Any old Evinrude particularly Finct injection, Mercury optimax particularly 150,
Just learn from your own mistakes, and try not to make the same ones twice.
[b]As the saying goes if it flys, fricks, or floats, rent it don't buy it. [/b]
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:12 pm to hansongrad
20' aluminum center console.
You can run that thing into almost anything (and you will) and not damage it as easily as fiberglass.
You can run that thing into almost anything (and you will) and not damage it as easily as fiberglass.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:22 pm to Shexter
I thought those were $$$$$$
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:24 pm to hansongrad
buying a boat has been the best decision i've made in the past couple of years..
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:31 pm to Clint Torres
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buying a boat has been the best decision i've made in the past couple of years..
Same here, Do it man, dont listen to the naysayers. I kept putting off buying one for years, I finally broke down and got one and its been one of the best decisions and most enjoyment I've had. Yes, they will cost money, yes they will require maintenance but these cons far outweigh its uses.
Do your research on buying a good boat and maintaining it, would be a good idea to go on a couple charter trips or with some friends who have a boat to get your sea legs.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:39 pm to Tbooux
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Do your research on buying a good boat and maintaining it
word..
i bought a 2011 with 48 hours on the yamaha. i've got a good mechanic who does the 100 hour service for about $300 and i've had no problems.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 5:03 pm to hansongrad
As a relative novice, don't go offshore. Navigating offshore is like flying an airplane in the fog, you have to be able to know and trust your instruments and be very familiar with weather and water in order to be safe. You can go in salt water, and even in the Gulf if you are just running up and down the coast, but always stay in close sight of land and don't go into open water.
For a boat novice, aluminum is easier and cheaper to keep.
There is an art to dealing with rough water and rough weather which develops with experience. I've lost power offshore and in the marsh. I never ignore the actual dangers.
For a boat novice, aluminum is easier and cheaper to keep.
There is an art to dealing with rough water and rough weather which develops with experience. I've lost power offshore and in the marsh. I never ignore the actual dangers.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 5:06 pm to redfish99
quote:I have a friend that bought my brother's bay boat, and for the first few trips, I went with him. He also had little/no experience. Fast forward to a year later and he's using it all the time, launching solo, finding his own spots, and has become very knowledgeable as a boater/fisherman. It's definitely doable.
You need a friend who has a boat. Make trips with him learn the basics from launching to driving to loading it up. Learn areas to go and not to go bead on tides and such. Def buy a used boat to start. Lots of info available online . Good Luck
Oh, and it was a Nautic Star, so bonus. :)
Posted on 8/22/14 at 5:47 pm to Fishhead
Ok...I wrote out that question from my cell phone inbetween jobs so excuse the garble....
Thanks for all the advice. Some of you really brought some areas into focus that I didn't think about before...
That being said, when I talk about off shore what I'm actually saying is that I want to see the land when I do go in the gulf (I'm only talking on several hundred yards for my freshman and sophmore year) and like one guy wrote, maybe in 4 or 5 years I'll move up and go out farther.
I'm looking to spend between 10 to 20 on a used boat.
This is what I'm thinking.
I want to be able to walk around on the boat comfortably and bring my boys and son in law. I don't mind spending more on a dependable engine if it's worth it... I just need to know what type to get. I also need to get some suggestions on model types. What is the most dependable ranks high on my list...I don't mind paying a little extra within reason.
I'm a little punch drunk from the pricing on some used boats. I see a bay boat for 10k and almost the same boat for 26k so I'm trying to understand where the balance is.
Thanks again ahead of time for flood of advice.
Thanks for all the advice. Some of you really brought some areas into focus that I didn't think about before...
That being said, when I talk about off shore what I'm actually saying is that I want to see the land when I do go in the gulf (I'm only talking on several hundred yards for my freshman and sophmore year) and like one guy wrote, maybe in 4 or 5 years I'll move up and go out farther.
I'm looking to spend between 10 to 20 on a used boat.
This is what I'm thinking.
I want to be able to walk around on the boat comfortably and bring my boys and son in law. I don't mind spending more on a dependable engine if it's worth it... I just need to know what type to get. I also need to get some suggestions on model types. What is the most dependable ranks high on my list...I don't mind paying a little extra within reason.
I'm a little punch drunk from the pricing on some used boats. I see a bay boat for 10k and almost the same boat for 26k so I'm trying to understand where the balance is.
Thanks again ahead of time for flood of advice.
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