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Question for the Future of Fournette

Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:49 pm
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:49 pm
Does LF ever eclipse 2K yards for a season during his career at LSU. I know this is crazy to think about under the revolving door of backs that we normally use under Miles, but do you think Miles will actually ride him enough where he could make that mark? I ask because if you want to talk about our next Heisman, then let LF eclipse 2K and we will have our next Heisman.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28830 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:51 pm to
5 heismans
breaks all of Barry's records
etc
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17994 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:52 pm to
This year? No.

We will be going through a transitional phase with our RB's next year where he will be the feature back and take the lion share of the carries. If he does it at all it would be next year.

Then once he's a junior we will have restocked the cupboard with Guice, Brosette, Teuhema, etc. and will go back to backs by committee with him being the feature back.

So in the 3 years he will be here, his only real shot to do it would be next year.

Personally, I don't think it happens. SEC defenses are too good up front, and he would have to average like 25 carries a game and we all know that he won't tote the rock that much against garbage teams.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 12:02 am
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17994 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:58 pm to
Also to add,

There are some teams in college football that play for stats and Heisman trophies.

At LSU, we play for championships. And against the highest caliber of conference opponents week in and week out.

Long story short, if LF played in the B1G, I'd say it would be more likely
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 am to
I don't know that it is likely. Les has never really leaned that heavily on any one guy. If he is as good as advertised he will get the lion's share of the carries. However, I could see him having a Charles Scott like year where he gets sat a lot after the first half when the game is already in hand thanks to his running.
Posted by ItsThatDude12
Giving out Mercy Knees
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:07 am to
Leonard Knows
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17066 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:10 am to
In a 15 game season(we make it to the playoff championship game), he would have to average 134 yds/game. A pretty lofty goal.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5957 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:18 am to
2k. No
Heisman.. Possibly.. Depending on how well we do next year (who knows - maybe this year).
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66338 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:30 am to
i think it wouldn't be surprising to see around 1800

Hill could have had it if he played a full season and got 250 carries

Eventually Fournette will get 250 carries
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33442 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:40 am to
quote:

Does LF ever eclipse 2K yards for a season


LF...as in the guy who currently has as many career yards as you and I combined?

Let's actually see him in a game or two before we declare
quote:

our next Heisman
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
3884 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 1:04 am to
No. We need to keep LF fresh and we will have too much talent to give him all the carries
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:47 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:43 am to
I'll do it in a hypothetical statistical standpoint.

Hill had 203 carries in what amounted to 11 games. That is 18.45 carries a game.

Using 18.45 as a reference and that I expect us to get to the championship game his junior year (his sophomore year too, but let's go with junior), he could play 14 games before the heisman is announced. That is 258 carries.

Now I also believe that our OL should bring back at least 3-5 starters depending on what guys leave this year. I will use that as a point, plus our passing game in year 4 of Cam, Smith, Diarse, and year 3 of Harris, Dupre, Quinn, and Washington. He should be able to hit 7 ypc at the least, because he is a home run threat and he will have the OL and pass game to aid him.

On rushing yardage alone, adding these factors above, I'd say he could run for at least 1806 yards in 14 games. Once you add in receiving yardage, he should hit at or over 2100 yards.

Since this OP is a hypothetical, it is possible giving what transpired just last year under Miles and Cam, using Hill as the example.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 2:53 am to
The only way he (or anyone for that matter)has a chance is if he gets 350+ carries in 1 season. In 2007, McFadden had 1830 on 325 carries in 13 games and a 5.6ypc. 350 carries for 2000 yards is a 5.7ypc.

The only issue is that the most carries a RB has had at LSU under Miles is Ridley with 249 carries. I don't see Les Miles going over that number by 100 in 1 season, regardless who the RB is.

Plus, we have other RBs that will be good enough to get some carries in Williams, Guice, and Brossette.


quote:

He should be able to hit 7 ypc at the least, because he is a home run threat and he will have the OL and pass game to aid him


Should at least hit 7ypc? Come on man. I get Hill had a 6.9ypc this season... But it also was on just 203 carries. I would be shocked if a player with 300+ carries averaged over 6ypc. Typically the more carries you get, the lower your YPC would be. Especially if you are getting 25 carries a game. Defenses will sell out and stack the box all day long. McFadden was probably the best RB I've seen recently and had 1830 rushing yards, but it was on 325 carries and a 5.6ypc. And he was a home run threat too.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 3:04 am
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 3:04 am to
quote:

At LSU, we play for championships. And against the highest caliber of conference opponents week in and week out.


Alabama does too. Ingram ran 271 times in 2009, for 1658 yards and 17 TDs. He also added 32 catches for 334 yards and 3 TDs. Richardson in 2011 ran 283 times in one less game than Ingram did in 2009. He ran for 1679 yards and 21 TDs, and also caught 29 passes for 338 yards and 3 TDs.

-They were 43rd in total offense in 2009 and 31st in total offense in 2011.
-They were 2nd in total and scoring defense in 2009 and 1st in total and scoring defense in 2011.
-They were 14-0 in 2009 and 13-1 in 2011.
-They won a national championship in 2009 and a national championship in 2011.


So yes, it can happen, and it is usually rare for a heisman contender to not be playing for at least one team in the National Championship Game.

SEC guys

2013 Mason
2012 McCarron
2011 Richardson and Mathieu
2010 Newton (Heisman winner)
2009 Ingram (Heisman winner)
2008 Tebow (Heisman winner in 2007, contender in 2008)


We just haven't had anybody worth being one on offense. Let's say we didn't get Fournette and Hill came back, IMO Hill would have heisman odds close to that of Gurley's/Gordon's.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:02 am to
LF probably will be a great running back but eclipsing 2K yards is not in his future. That is not the team LSU is. Does he appear to have the tools to do so? Yes. But mathematically he would likely have to carry the ball like 20 - 25 times a game, averaging 6 or so yards per game - assuming a 15 game season (title game etc.) the math just doesn't work for it to be likely to happen.



Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8807 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:24 am to
First off, Suspect.

I doubt he'll ever reach 2,000 and I'm fine with that. I support LSU's multi-running back strategy. It keeps players fresh (also for their NFL futures) and helps ensure we have experienced guys every year.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 9:25 am
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:59 am to
Lets see if he can have a 100 yqard game first
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26607 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Should at least hit 7ypc? Come on man. I get Hill had a 6.9ypc this season... But it also was on just 203 carries. I would be shocked if a player with 300+ carries averaged over 6ypc. Typically the more carries you get, the lower your YPC would be. Especially if you are getting 25 carries a game. Defenses will sell out and stack the box all day long. McFadden was probably the best RB I've seen recently and had 1830 rushing yards, but it was on 325 carries and a 5.6ypc. And he was a home run threat too.


LOL. You do not get it. He averaged nearly 18.5 carries a game at 6.9 ypc. At 20 carries a game for 14 games, that's 280 carries. At 6.9 ypc, that's 1932 yards.

I just saw big arse Carlos Hyde run for 7.3 ypc with over 1500 yards in just 10 games. Missed the crappy games where he could have racked up too.

You can't just look at it as a carry thing. The more longer runs you break, the higher your YPC will be. Hill was 2nd in the country in runs over 40 yards and tied for 2nd in runs over 50. You think that would have stopped because he got more carries? The only guy that was on his level in that regard, was Tevin Coleman. The other guy who was ahead of him, had 60+ more carries.
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2457 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 4:58 pm to
Never. This year I predict he will 15 carries/game for 95-100 yd average. Total yds = 1000-1100+ in 12 game season.. Average 3 catches/ game for 30 yds.

Finishes 3 year career with 4300 rush yds & 1200 yds receiving. About 43 TDs total
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 11:10 am to
Nah man definitely not Suspect I am on team but that does not mean he will do 2,000 yards. Would love to see him do it. I sat through Troy Davis doing it in back to back years and he had so many freaking carries it was unreal.

LSU will not put that much work on a single back barring injuries.
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